Reporter protests minimum area to turn east avoid border of san TCA and at the same time avoid inbou...

Attributes
ACN	139245
Time
Date	199003
Place
Locale Reference	airport : myf
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 2600
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : myf tracon : ont
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 22 flight time total : 500 flight time type : 200
ASRS Report	139245
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor other personnel other
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	139128
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified cockpit
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

When taking off from myf on runway 28L with a downwind departure clearance it is necessary to fly southeast in order to provide clearance from incoming myf ILS traffic. There is less than 5 mi space between myf and the boundary of the TCA. It is necessary to fly extremely close to the TCA boundary in order to provide for inbound ILS traffic to myf. One of the principle rules in operating near a TCA is to avoid flying extremely close to the TCA. This does not provide adequate airspace to follow this rule.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: REPORTER PROTESTS MINIMUM AREA TO TURN EAST AVOID BORDER OF SAN TCA AND AT THE SAME TIME AVOID INBOUND TRAFFIC BY 5 MI.

Narrative: WHEN TAKING OFF FROM MYF ON RWY 28L WITH A DOWNWIND DEP CLRNC IT IS NECESSARY TO FLY SE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE CLRNC FROM INCOMING MYF ILS TFC. THERE IS LESS THAN 5 MI SPACE BTWN MYF AND THE BOUNDARY OF THE TCA. IT IS NECESSARY TO FLY EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE TCA BOUNDARY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR INBND ILS TFC TO MYF. ONE OF THE PRINCIPLE RULES IN OPERATING NEAR A TCA IS TO AVOID FLYING EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE TCA. THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE AIRSPACE TO FOLLOW THIS RULE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Reporter protests minimum area to turn east avoid border of san TCA and at the same time avoid inbound traffic by 5 mi.