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Attributes | |
ACN | 139290 |
Time | |
Date | 199003 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 139290 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Scheduled flight den to pdx. Night, forecast VMC. GPWS deferred, inoperative. Maintenance supervisor said it's legal. (We don't have MEL books on aircraft.) dispatcher unaware of it, since it's not a performance type of item and not forwarded to him by maintenance. We have gotten bulletins from flight safety department telling of two aircraft that nearly hit mountains near pdx in IMC and that statistics show our next major accident will be 'controled flight into terrain'. How can the FAA allow an airline to defer an inoperative GPWS (except maybe day/VFR)? The fdr is a no-go item. Why isn't the GPWS?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT DISPATCHED. RELEASED BY MAINTENANCE WITH GPWS INOPERATIVE.
Narrative: SCHEDULED FLT DEN TO PDX. NIGHT, FORECAST VMC. GPWS DEFERRED, INOP. MAINT SUPVR SAID IT'S LEGAL. (WE DON'T HAVE MEL BOOKS ON ACFT.) DISPATCHER UNAWARE OF IT, SINCE IT'S NOT A PERFORMANCE TYPE OF ITEM AND NOT FORWARDED TO HIM BY MAINT. WE HAVE GOTTEN BULLETINS FROM FLT SAFETY DEPT TELLING OF TWO ACFT THAT NEARLY HIT MOUNTAINS NEAR PDX IN IMC AND THAT STATISTICS SHOW OUR NEXT MAJOR ACCIDENT WILL BE 'CTLED FLT INTO TERRAIN'. HOW CAN THE FAA ALLOW AN AIRLINE TO DEFER AN INOP GPWS (EXCEPT MAYBE DAY/VFR)? THE FDR IS A NO-GO ITEM. WHY ISN'T THE GPWS?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.