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Attributes | |
ACN | 1403416 |
Time | |
Date | 201611 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MPO.Airport |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 150 Flight Crew Total 640 Flight Crew Type 470 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Ground Conflict Critical |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 50 |
Narrative:
During pattern training with solo student my student and I performed a right pattern for runway 31; while another aircraft performing [fixed wing] training performed a left pattern for the same runway. Communication and visual contact between us and the [fixed wing] operating on a left pattern was maintained for the whole pattern. Upon coming around for landing the [fixed wing] landed first; and the helicopter came in second. This was communicated between us and the [fixed wing]; and every other leg of the pattern was announced.as the [fixed wing] cleared the runway he called clear and announced back taxi on crossing runway. Helicopter called short final and landed on the runway; close to the threshold/numbers. Student brought the helicopter to a hover and attempts a set-down; then picked helicopter back up. As the first set-down was somewhat abrupt another set-down was performed. While preparing to pick back up and departing for another pattern an airplane was observed 30-50 ft above the helicopter. The airplane proceeds to land past us on runway 31; showing no signs of evasive action. The airplane was promptly called on the radio and responded insisting that calls had been made throughout approach and confirming that he had heard all communication between us and the airplane landing ahead of us. The airplane also stated that he had heard someone clearing the runway and assumed from that that the runway was clear.I later had found the pilot and talked with him about what happened. He was very cooperative and apologetic. According to him he had heard all communication and knew that both an airplane and helicopter were landing in front of him. He also said that he never saw the helicopter until the last minute and then 'floated' past it and proceeded to land. His choice of performing a very long straight in approach was also discussed.contact information was also exchanged between pilots. The pilot of the aircraft landing over the helicopter also discussed the situation with a highly experience senior pilot working out of the field to identify what could be done to avoid similar situations in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Helicopter instructor pilot reported a light aircraft overflew them by approximately 50 ft as they were preparing for a lift-off.
Narrative: During pattern training with solo student my student and I performed a right pattern for runway 31; while another aircraft performing [fixed wing] training performed a left pattern for the same runway. Communication and visual contact between us and the [fixed wing] operating on a left pattern was maintained for the whole pattern. Upon coming around for landing the [fixed wing] landed first; and the helicopter came in second. This was communicated between us and the [fixed wing]; and every other leg of the pattern was announced.As the [fixed wing] cleared the runway he called clear and announced back taxi on crossing runway. Helicopter called short final and landed on the runway; close to the threshold/numbers. Student brought the helicopter to a hover and attempts a set-down; then picked helicopter back up. As the first set-down was somewhat abrupt another set-down was performed. While preparing to pick back up and departing for another pattern an airplane was observed 30-50 ft above the helicopter. The airplane proceeds to land past us on runway 31; showing no signs of evasive action. The airplane was promptly called on the radio and responded insisting that calls had been made throughout approach and confirming that he had heard all communication between us and the airplane landing ahead of us. The airplane also stated that he had heard someone clearing the runway and assumed from that that the runway was clear.I later had found the pilot and talked with him about what happened. He was very cooperative and apologetic. According to him he had heard all communication and knew that both an airplane and helicopter were landing in front of him. He also said that he never saw the helicopter until the last minute and then 'floated' past it and proceeded to land. His choice of performing a very long straight in approach was also discussed.Contact information was also exchanged between pilots. The pilot of the aircraft landing over the helicopter also discussed the situation with a highly experience senior pilot working out of the field to identify what could be done to avoid similar situations in the future.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.