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Attributes | |
ACN | 1410557 |
Time | |
Date | 201612 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28R Cherokee Arrow All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Route In Use | Direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Private |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 25 Flight Crew Total 600 Flight Crew Type 200 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Ground Event / Encounter Loss Of Aircraft Control Ground Event / Encounter Object Ground Event / Encounter Ground Strike - Aircraft Ground Excursion Runway Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Departed with three FSS online checks in the preceding 24 hours and a telephone conversation with FSS just an hour prior to departure. Encountered no icing until 7000 feet and then got 1/8 inch very very quickly; asked ATC for let down and dropped; seemed to be more ice slowly accumulating so asked; received and went to 3000; did not feel comfortable as it seemed ice was still slowly accumulating so got diversion to ZZZ1. After turning to the assigned heading I still did not like what I perceived was happening on the temp probe so asked for nearest and given ZZZ and for descent lower. Ceiling encountered was broken at about 2500 but ATC comm then became intermittent. Further messages were relayed by a nearby cirrus informing ATC I was in VMC and proceeding direct ZZZ. Ground visualization allowed me to maintain ~1300 feet and icing finally seemed to halt. Overflew ZZZ and determined runway and wind direction. Proceeded outbound and discovered the aircraft was responding sluggishly on turns so I kept them shallow and watched the airspeed very closely. Watching ground; airspeed and lining up for runway xy I felt the aircraft was behaving like there was a significant amount of airflow compromise so I kept the airspeed high; did not deploy flaps and was aware that lowering the gear could severely compromise lift; perhaps to a stall; so I decided to keep the gear up until the very last instant. About 5 seconds before threshold I felt high and fast and thought I may need to do a missed but considered how much climb performance was in the prop and wings and could it be accomplished; so I throttled back gingerly and the plane came down quickly; and I controlled it with pitch and slight power back up. Over the threshold position/height seemed good and speed was 80 knots and the wings felt like they still had some margin of lift; but I wanted to be very low to the runway when I extended the gear in case there was not enough lift and gear extension would stall the plane into the runway; so I pulled throttle back very slightly and speed bled off almost; it seemed; instantly; the nose came up as the auto-extend gear deployed and the stall warning sounded. I quickly put some throttle back in and gingerly pitched up and the plane planted firmly but not hard on all three wheels on a snow covered runway. Rollout occurred and after about two seconds; it felt like driving on a gravel road in the car at about twenty miles an hour; and I was thinking: be careful with directional control; easy on the braking to avoid skidding; with this surface I might over-run the end of the field; be careful. Then I noticed the passenger side dipping slightly; slowly and wondered what was going on; it seemed slow; the gear! I put the gear switch down; but the tilt completed and then a second later the nose gear collapsed. The resulting slide was slow; gentle and we went off the field eventually into grass; taking out one runway light in the process. Neither I nor my passenger sustained any injury at all. Damage that I saw was prop strike; probably internal engine consequences from the sudden stoppage; whatever damage occurred to the right main and nose gear; possible stress to the left gear and a dent in the right leading edge from the probable runway light clip.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Piper Cherokee Arrow pilot reported icing conditions; diversion and experienced right main and nose gear collapse on rollout on snow covered runway.
Narrative: Departed with three FSS online checks in the preceding 24 hours and a telephone conversation with FSS just an hour prior to departure. Encountered no icing until 7000 feet and then got 1/8 inch very very quickly; asked ATC for let down and dropped; seemed to be more ice slowly accumulating so asked; received and went to 3000; did not feel comfortable as it seemed ice was still slowly accumulating so got diversion to ZZZ1. After turning to the assigned heading I still did not like what I perceived was happening on the Temp Probe so asked for nearest and given ZZZ and for descent lower. Ceiling encountered was broken at about 2500 but ATC comm then became intermittent. Further messages were relayed by a nearby Cirrus informing ATC I was in VMC and proceeding direct ZZZ. Ground visualization allowed me to maintain ~1300 feet and icing finally seemed to halt. Overflew ZZZ and determined runway and wind direction. Proceeded outbound and discovered the aircraft was responding sluggishly on turns so I kept them shallow and watched the airspeed very closely. Watching ground; airspeed and lining up for runway XY I felt the aircraft was behaving like there was a significant amount of airflow compromise so I kept the airspeed high; did not deploy flaps and was aware that lowering the gear could severely compromise lift; perhaps to a stall; so I decided to keep the gear up until the very last instant. About 5 seconds before threshold I felt high and fast and thought I may need to do a missed but considered how much climb performance was in the prop and wings and could it be accomplished; so I throttled back gingerly and the plane came down quickly; and I controlled it with pitch and slight power back up. Over the threshold position/height seemed good and speed was 80 knots and the wings felt like they still had some margin of lift; but I wanted to be very low to the runway when I extended the gear in case there was not enough lift and gear extension would stall the plane into the runway; so I pulled throttle back very slightly and speed bled off almost; it seemed; instantly; the nose came up as the auto-extend gear deployed and the stall warning sounded. I quickly put some throttle back in and gingerly pitched up and the plane planted firmly but not hard on all three wheels on a snow covered runway. Rollout occurred and after about two seconds; it felt like driving on a gravel road in the car at about twenty miles an hour; and I was thinking: be careful with directional control; easy on the braking to avoid skidding; with this surface I might over-run the end of the field; be careful. Then I noticed the passenger side dipping slightly; slowly and wondered what was going on; it seemed slow; the gear! I put the gear switch down; but the tilt completed and then a second later the nose gear collapsed. The resulting slide was slow; gentle and we went off the field eventually into grass; taking out one runway light in the process. Neither I nor my passenger sustained any injury at all. Damage that I saw was prop strike; probably internal engine consequences from the sudden stoppage; whatever damage occurred to the right main and nose gear; possible stress to the left gear and a dent in the right leading edge from the probable runway light clip.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.