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Sct TRACON controller reported that lax tower gave him a loss of separation on a departure due to running the second departure too close to the first departure. Controller had to turn first departure southwest bound and second departure was too close.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1413225 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201612 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | LAX.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-800 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | MD-11 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Departure |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 6 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Lax has 2 departure runways. When they depart an aircraft off the north complex that is routed south they have to allow us the departure controllers to turn this aircraft south which I did. The problem is they launched aircraft Y way to soon off the south causing a loss with the north departure aircraft X. The weather was IMC so nobody could use visual and the tower may not realize the speeds involved an MD11 will hit 250 almost immediately after takeoff.we have been saying this forever! If lax has a north side departure routed south they need to assign a southbound heading (H210).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SCT TRACON Controller reported that LAX Tower gave him a loss of separation on a departure due to running the second departure too close to the first departure. Controller had to turn first departure southwest bound and second departure was too close.
Narrative: LAX has 2 departure runways. When they depart an aircraft off the north complex that is routed south they have to allow us the departure controllers to turn this aircraft south which I did. The problem is they launched Aircraft Y way to soon off the south causing a loss with the north departure Aircraft X. The weather was IMC so nobody could use visual and the Tower may not realize the speeds involved an MD11 will hit 250 almost immediately after takeoff.We have been saying this forever! If LAX has a north side departure routed south they need to assign a southbound heading (H210).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.