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Attributes | |
ACN | 141431 |
Time | |
Date | 199004 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2700 |
ASRS Report | 141431 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 141445 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight phx-lax was on a 10 mi straight-in ILS 24R approach when air carrier Y approached from the south. Our flight had been cleared for the ILS 24R at 190 KTS. Air carrier Y was cleared #2 to follow our aircraft at 180 KTS. Air carrier Y reported our aircraft insight. As we made visibility contact with air carrier Y we could see they were on an intercept heading with us at a high speed. At this time I turned right off the localizer to maintain visibility sep. Also lax approach told air carrier Y to turn left 220 degrees and asked what their speed was (210 KTS reported), at which time lax approach changed air carrier Y's clearance to, 'cleared visibility 24L.' after landing I called the lax TRACON and talked to the supervisor. He informed me that air carrier Y was given the instructions by the controller too late to respond and that they were very sorry for the irregularities.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX 2 ACR ACFT MAKING VISUAL APCH TO THE SAME RWY AT LAX.
Narrative: FLT PHX-LAX WAS ON A 10 MI STRAIGHT-IN ILS 24R APCH WHEN ACR Y APCHED FROM THE S. OUR FLT HAD BEEN CLRED FOR THE ILS 24R AT 190 KTS. ACR Y WAS CLRED #2 TO FOLLOW OUR ACFT AT 180 KTS. ACR Y RPTED OUR ACFT INSIGHT. AS WE MADE VIS CONTACT WITH ACR Y WE COULD SEE THEY WERE ON AN INTERCEPT HDG WITH US AT A HIGH SPD. AT THIS TIME I TURNED RIGHT OFF THE LOC TO MAINTAIN VIS SEP. ALSO LAX APCH TOLD ACR Y TO TURN LEFT 220 DEGS AND ASKED WHAT THEIR SPD WAS (210 KTS RPTED), AT WHICH TIME LAX APCH CHANGED ACR Y'S CLRNC TO, 'CLRED VIS 24L.' AFTER LNDG I CALLED THE LAX TRACON AND TALKED TO THE SUPVR. HE INFORMED ME THAT ACR Y WAS GIVEN THE INSTRUCTIONS BY THE CTLR TOO LATE TO RESPOND AND THAT THEY WERE VERY SORRY FOR THE IRREGULARITIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.