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A321 pilot reported encountering wake vortices as he was taking off full length on jfk runway 31L from an A380 that had just landed on that runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1415197 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201612 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | JFK.Airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | A321 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | A380 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 129 |
| Flight Phase | Landing |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Other / Unknown |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
I am requesting a review of the new wake turbulence separation standards in [company documents] in light of A380 super operations at jfk. Jfk tower gave me a line up and wait clearance runway 31L full length as an A380 super was landing on runway 31L. If you look at jfk there is a long displaced threshold on runway 31L and runway 22R. Because of the runway dimensions; the A380 wake turbulence vortices were settling on top of me as I took off runway 31L full length. This is my safety issue in which I do not comprehend (within) our current verbiage. Is this scenario envisioned and accounted for on a long displaced threshold? In my experience; this only occurs at jfk on runways 31L and 22R full length takeoffs. Please review the science behind our separation standards and maybe have jfk tower execute a modified procedure for these 2 runways and then include a caution or warning in our [aircraft chart] notes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A321 pilot reported encountering wake vortices as he was taking off full length on JFK Runway 31L from an A380 that had just landed on that runway.
Narrative: I am requesting a review of the new Wake Turbulence Separation Standards in [company documents] in light of A380 Super operations at JFK. JFK Tower gave me a Line Up and Wait clearance Runway 31L full length as an A380 Super was landing on Runway 31L. If you look at JFK there is a long displaced threshold on Runway 31L and Runway 22R. Because of the runway dimensions; the A380 Wake Turbulence vortices were settling on top of me as I took off Runway 31L full length. This is my safety issue in which I do not comprehend (within) our current verbiage. Is this scenario envisioned and accounted for on a long displaced threshold? In my experience; this only occurs at JFK on Runways 31L and 22R full length takeoffs. Please review the science behind our separation standards and maybe have JFK Tower execute a modified procedure for these 2 runways and then include a caution or warning in our [aircraft chart] notes.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.