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Attributes | |
ACN | 142041 |
Time | |
Date | 199004 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : yul |
State Reference | PQ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czul |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : czul |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 142041 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
You mentioned you wanted international comments. Both in parts of canada and in france the controllers regularly speak french to french speaking carriers. They do this in all areas of flight (taxi, takeoff, cruise, approach etc). In bad WX and/or overseas when you are unsure of routines, vors, etc, it is very disturbing. Much is gained by hearing clrncs given to other aircraft, not only in knowing what to expect, but to be able at times to verify that you are preceding as you thought cleared.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: U.S. ACR FO COMPLAINS OF USING FRENCH FOR ATC COMS IN PARTS OF CANADA AND FRANCE.
Narrative: YOU MENTIONED YOU WANTED INTL COMMENTS. BOTH IN PARTS OF CANADA AND IN FRANCE THE CTLRS REGULARLY SPEAK FRENCH TO FRENCH SPEAKING CARRIERS. THEY DO THIS IN ALL AREAS OF FLT (TAXI, TKOF, CRUISE, APCH ETC). IN BAD WX AND/OR OVERSEAS WHEN YOU ARE UNSURE OF ROUTINES, VORS, ETC, IT IS VERY DISTURBING. MUCH IS GAINED BY HEARING CLRNCS GIVEN TO OTHER ACFT, NOT ONLY IN KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT TO BE ABLE AT TIMES TO VERIFY THAT YOU ARE PRECEDING AS YOU THOUGHT CLRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.