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Attributes | |
ACN | 142314 |
Time | |
Date | 199004 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : las |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 142314 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Briefed IFR departure as a heading until 4 DME, right turn to 070 degrees, cross a radial (280 dgs) at or above 4000' and below 7000'. After takeoff, raised gear, called departure control. First officer called for, '1/2 climb rate, flaps up, climb power,' and departure control said, 'turn left at 2 DME to 095 degrees, intercept ? Radio off of ? VOR and climb to ? Altitude, ' and to then proceed to another VOR and then as filed. At XA30 in the morning I wasn't in the right mood and just told him we would turn to 095 degrees and call him back. I thought the ATC system went through a communication/instruction purge a few yrs ago to avoid all those changes at a critical phase of flight. If not, they need to. Yes, I probably could have started taking notes at 1000', but is it safe? Not in my mind.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF ACR MLG OBJECTS TO AMENDED CLRNC JUST AFTER TKOF.
Narrative: BRIEFED IFR DEP AS A HDG UNTIL 4 DME, RIGHT TURN TO 070 DEGS, CROSS A RADIAL (280 DGS) AT OR ABOVE 4000' AND BELOW 7000'. AFTER TKOF, RAISED GEAR, CALLED DEP CTL. F/O CALLED FOR, '1/2 CLB RATE, FLAPS UP, CLB PWR,' AND DEP CTL SAID, 'TURN LEFT AT 2 DME TO 095 DEGS, INTERCEPT ? RADIO OFF OF ? VOR AND CLB TO ? ALT, ' AND TO THEN PROCEED TO ANOTHER VOR AND THEN AS FILED. AT XA30 IN THE MORNING I WASN'T IN THE RIGHT MOOD AND JUST TOLD HIM WE WOULD TURN TO 095 DEGS AND CALL HIM BACK. I THOUGHT THE ATC SYS WENT THROUGH A COM/INSTRUCTION PURGE A FEW YRS AGO TO AVOID ALL THOSE CHANGES AT A CRITICAL PHASE OF FLT. IF NOT, THEY NEED TO. YES, I PROBABLY COULD HAVE STARTED TAKING NOTES AT 1000', BUT IS IT SAFE? NOT IN MY MIND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.