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Attributes | |
ACN | 1427427 |
Time | |
Date | 201702 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | FAY.Airport |
State Reference | NC |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 105 Flight Crew Total 3500 Flight Crew Type 780 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural FAR Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Comms with ATC were broken. It took three attempts to check in when passed to fay. Controller was also heavily tasked. Controller directed descent to 5000. With an hour of flight to go and a cloud layer below with temps under 5C; I did not want to descend yet. Asked if I could stay at 11000 and offered to go VFR. Received broken reply but could hear '...5000.' with VMC above 9000 I responded with 'cancel IFR VFR squawking 1200'. Response was again broken; but it then ended with '...are you refusing to obey ATC instructions'. I was stunned - paused... Responded that I thought if VFR I could select appropriate VFR altitude. Controller response broken and ended with VFR below 10;500. I initiated a descent and again asked if VFR could I not select my altitude. At this point I'm worried about cloud clearance as a VFR aircraft; but could tell from broken comms controller wanted me lower. Next understandable comms from controller was asking me to call them after landing but the phone number was unreadable (they repeated it for me). I leveled off at 10500 even though heading east so as to stay 1000 ft above the clouds. Controller then asked me to switch frequencies.lessons learned.1) I should have initiated a descent first when directed to 5000 then explained concerns about icing vice asking to stay at 11000. 2) I should have informed the controller that parts of his transmissions were unreadable and asked for repeat instead of cancelling IFR.3) I should have realized that if I was having difficulty hearing controller he might also be having difficulty hearing me.yes; logic was that I have VMC on top; can assure separation on top; and comms were broken; so I can solve those by staying VMC; cancelling IFR and going VFR; and not descending; but I did not have as good of a good picture of other factors involved like the controller had. If I had started a descent and asked for a readback/repeat; then either said that I was unable to comply (descend onto the clouds with potential icing) or that I needed a delay above the clouds or requested a vector instead of descent if possible (while descending); it would have been better. By cancelling IFR and going VFR I solved my problem but made the controller's problems worse. Last lesson learned is to default to 'informing' controllers of comms issues vice asking for something specifically. They almost always have better situational awareness than pilots do even when they are having comms issues.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reported while on an IFR flight plan he declined to descend into a cloud layer below due to icing concerns.
Narrative: Comms with ATC were broken. It took three attempts to check in when passed to FAY. Controller was also heavily tasked. Controller directed descent to 5000. With an hour of flight to go and a cloud layer below with temps under 5C; I did not want to descend yet. Asked if I could stay at 11000 and offered to go VFR. Received broken reply but could hear '...5000.' With VMC above 9000 I responded with 'cancel IFR VFR squawking 1200'. Response was again broken; but it then ended with '...are you refusing to obey ATC instructions'. I was stunned - paused... responded that I thought if VFR I could select appropriate VFR altitude. Controller response broken and ended with VFR below 10;500. I initiated a descent and again asked if VFR could I not select my altitude. At this point I'm worried about cloud clearance as a VFR aircraft; but could tell from broken comms controller wanted me lower. Next understandable comms from controller was asking me to call them after landing but the phone number was unreadable (they repeated it for me). I leveled off at 10500 even though heading east so as to stay 1000 ft above the clouds. Controller then asked me to switch frequencies.Lessons learned.1) I should have initiated a descent FIRST when directed to 5000 then explained concerns about icing vice asking to stay at 11000. 2) I should have informed the controller that parts of his transmissions were unreadable and asked for repeat instead of cancelling IFR.3) I should have realized that if I was having difficulty hearing controller he might also be having difficulty hearing me.Yes; logic was that I have VMC on top; can assure separation on top; and comms were broken; so I can solve those by staying VMC; cancelling IFR and going VFR; and not descending; but I did not have as good of a good picture of other factors involved like the controller had. If I had started a descent and asked for a readback/repeat; then either said that I was unable to comply (descend onto the clouds with potential icing) or that I needed a delay above the clouds or requested a vector instead of descent if possible (while descending); it would have been better. By cancelling IFR and going VFR I solved my problem but made the controller's problems worse. Last lesson learned is to default to 'informing' controllers of comms issues vice asking for something specifically. They almost always have better Situational Awareness than pilots do even when they are having comms issues.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.