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Attributes | |
ACN | 143720 |
Time | |
Date | 199004 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cvg airport : day |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12500 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 4900 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 143720 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 186 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 143940 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Climbing through approximately 17000', we noticed an aircraft at our 12 O'clock position and converging. After looking at it for awhile and trying to figure out which way it was going to pass, we discovered that we were coming together head-on, on a collision course. We pulled up and the other aircraft descended sharply in a left turn, just passing below us to our right side. I am confident that if evasive action wasn't taken by both aircraft, we would have collided. Fortunately, all 3 crew members were looking outside, because from the time of first seeing him to the time of near miss was less than 30 seconds, and he was never pointed out by ATC. I think the installation of TCAS equipment in all part 121 aircraft would greatly reduce if not eliminate such occurrences. Also, requiring mode C xponders in all aircraft. Supplemental information from acn 143940: saw traffic at 12 O'clock position and turned on landing lights. Could not tell at first if traffic was converging. It was necessary to pull up sharply to avoid a midair collision. ATC did not call the traffic, but after I told them of our near miss, was advised they had a mode C target at 12500'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLIMBING LGT HAS NMAC WITH ANOTHER ACFT.
Narrative: CLIMBING THROUGH APPROX 17000', WE NOTICED AN ACFT AT OUR 12 O'CLOCK POSITION AND CONVERGING. AFTER LOOKING AT IT FOR AWHILE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY IT WAS GOING TO PASS, WE DISCOVERED THAT WE WERE COMING TOGETHER HEAD-ON, ON A COLLISION COURSE. WE PULLED UP AND THE OTHER ACFT DESCENDED SHARPLY IN A LEFT TURN, JUST PASSING BELOW US TO OUR RIGHT SIDE. I AM CONFIDENT THAT IF EVASIVE ACTION WASN'T TAKEN BY BOTH ACFT, WE WOULD HAVE COLLIDED. FORTUNATELY, ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS WERE LOOKING OUTSIDE, BECAUSE FROM THE TIME OF FIRST SEEING HIM TO THE TIME OF NEAR MISS WAS LESS THAN 30 SECONDS, AND HE WAS NEVER POINTED OUT BY ATC. I THINK THE INSTALLATION OF TCAS EQUIPMENT IN ALL PART 121 ACFT WOULD GREATLY REDUCE IF NOT ELIMINATE SUCH OCCURRENCES. ALSO, REQUIRING MODE C XPONDERS IN ALL ACFT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 143940: SAW TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK POSITION AND TURNED ON LNDG LIGHTS. COULD NOT TELL AT FIRST IF TFC WAS CONVERGING. IT WAS NECESSARY TO PULL UP SHARPLY TO AVOID A MIDAIR COLLISION. ATC DID NOT CALL THE TFC, BUT AFTER I TOLD THEM OF OUR NEAR MISS, WAS ADVISED THEY HAD A MODE C TARGET AT 12500'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.