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Attributes | |
ACN | 1437501 |
Time | |
Date | 201704 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ATL.Airport |
State Reference | GA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR WINNG 1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | FMS/FMC |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Type 207 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 170 Flight Crew Total 13600 Flight Crew Type 7000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
While descending on the winng 1 RNAV arrival into atl; ATC issued us a clearance to cross errgo intersection at 12;000. Upon receiving the clearance; I as the pm; set 12;000 into the MCP window. Both the captain; who was the PF; and I verified the set altitude and verified the restriction programmed in the FMS. What we failed to notice; however; was that it was not a hard altitude of 12;000 programmed; rather 12000A. It was set like this because that is the published restriction on the winng 1 RNAV arrival. Both of us discussed the NOTAM to disregard speeds and altitudes on the arrival; but decided rather than go through the arrival and delete all of these; we would leave them in place for descent guidance only and delete them later; as instructed by ATC. Although we identified this threat at the gate; we still failed to trap the erroneous altitude restriction and correct it later when descending into atl. Once the aircraft had been in a descent for a short period of time; the PF recognized that the aircraft would be high at the waypoint and almost immediately thereafter saw the error in the FMS. Using the speed brake to assist in the descent; we also requested relief on the altitude from ATC. The approach controller to whom we were talking coordinated with the center and gave us relief; by means of a descend and maintain clearance (9;000) just prior to waypoint passage.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 flight crew reported missing a crossing restriction of 12;000 feet due to the restriction having been previously programed by the arrival as 12000A.
Narrative: While descending on the WINNG 1 RNAV arrival into ATL; ATC issued us a clearance to cross ERRGO intersection at 12;000. Upon receiving the clearance; I as the PM; set 12;000 into the MCP window. Both the captain; who was the PF; and I verified the set altitude and verified the restriction programmed in the FMS. What we failed to notice; however; was that it was not a hard altitude of 12;000 programmed; rather 12000A. It was set like this because that is the published restriction on the WINNG 1 RNAV arrival. Both of us discussed the NOTAM to disregard speeds and altitudes on the arrival; but decided rather than go through the arrival and delete all of these; we would leave them in place for descent guidance only and delete them later; as instructed by ATC. Although we identified this threat at the gate; we still failed to trap the erroneous altitude restriction and correct it later when descending into ATL. Once the aircraft had been in a descent for a short period of time; the PF recognized that the aircraft would be high at the waypoint and almost immediately thereafter saw the error in the FMS. Using the speed brake to assist in the descent; we also requested relief on the altitude from ATC. The approach controller to whom we were talking coordinated with the center and gave us relief; by means of a descend and maintain clearance (9;000) just prior to waypoint passage.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.