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Cpr light transport being vectored for visual approach to iad was asked to maintain altitude until a commuter light transport passed under. Approach controller then forgot to issue descent clearance and cpr had to be vectored back for a second approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 143935 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199004 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : iad |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6700 |
| ASRS Report | 143935 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6700 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
The aircraft was being flown by the copilot. We were being vectored for a visibility approach to runway 1R at iad. Altitude was 3000' MSL. The approach controller was very busy. We were cleared to turn base, then final and then cleared for the approach. The controller then asked us to hold our altitude (we had just began and descent out of 3000' MSL) at 3000' so that he could vector a commuter light transport under us so that he could make an approach to runway 1L at iad. We held our altitude and continued toward runway 1R maintaining 3000' AGL. There was so much congestion on the frequency that the controller never cleared us for an approach to runway 1R. I queried the controller finally as we passed the end of the runway at 3000'. He handed us off to another approach frequency. We were subsequently vectored for another approach and landing on 1R. The controller acknowledged on the second approach that they were having radio problems and that he might not have reclred us. Corrective action: don't vector aircraft underneath to expedite arrs!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR LTT BEING VECTORED FOR VISUAL APCH TO IAD WAS ASKED TO MAINTAIN ALT UNTIL A COMMUTER LTT PASSED UNDER. APCH CTLR THEN FORGOT TO ISSUE DESCENT CLRNC AND CPR HAD TO BE VECTORED BACK FOR A SECOND APCH.
Narrative: THE ACFT WAS BEING FLOWN BY THE COPLT. WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR A VIS APCH TO RWY 1R AT IAD. ALT WAS 3000' MSL. THE APCH CTLR WAS VERY BUSY. WE WERE CLRED TO TURN BASE, THEN FINAL AND THEN CLRED FOR THE APCH. THE CTLR THEN ASKED US TO HOLD OUR ALT (WE HAD JUST BEGAN AND DSNT OUT OF 3000' MSL) AT 3000' SO THAT HE COULD VECTOR A COMMUTER LTT UNDER US SO THAT HE COULD MAKE AN APCH TO RWY 1L AT IAD. WE HELD OUR ALT AND CONTINUED TOWARD RWY 1R MAINTAINING 3000' AGL. THERE WAS SO MUCH CONGESTION ON THE FREQ THAT THE CTLR NEVER CLRED US FOR AN APCH TO RWY 1R. I QUERIED THE CTLR FINALLY AS WE PASSED THE END OF THE RWY AT 3000'. HE HANDED US OFF TO ANOTHER APCH FREQ. WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY VECTORED FOR ANOTHER APCH AND LNDG ON 1R. THE CTLR ACKNOWLEDGED ON THE SECOND APCH THAT THEY WERE HAVING RADIO PROBS AND THAT HE MIGHT NOT HAVE RECLRED US. CORRECTIVE ACTION: DON'T VECTOR ACFT UNDERNEATH TO EXPEDITE ARRS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.