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Attributes | |
ACN | 1444881 |
Time | |
Date | 201705 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZMP.ARTCC |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Widebody Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 26 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
ZKC called us and requested control for turns and speed assignment on aircraft Y. We released it. Aircraft Y was a 'flash through' to us from ZDV to ZKC at 37000 feet. We noticed that ZDV had just handed off aircraft X and aircraft Z to ZKC both at 37000 feet. Aircraft X was out front of all three aircraft and the slowest of the three. ZKC had to speed aircraft X up max forward; and turned aircraft Z 20 degrees right so they could turn aircraft Y 20 degrees right and slow him down as much as practical. The turn on aircraft Y was not working so they had to climb him to 38000 feet; wrong altitude for direction of flight; to keep separation! All of this occurred within 15 miles from ZDV airspace. All three aircraft had come from the same ZDV sector. Decertify all ZDV 'controllers' and close ZDV for a week to run simulation problems for much needed retraining. Let the adjacent centers control the aircraft that would normally be 'observed' by the inadequate employees at ZDV.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZMP Center Controller reported approving point-outs of three in trail aircraft and noticed the fastest aircraft was overtaking the slower aircraft. The aircraft had to be turned and climbed to a new altitude to maintain separation.
Narrative: ZKC called us and requested control for turns and speed assignment on Aircraft Y. We released it. Aircraft Y was a 'flash through' to us from ZDV to ZKC at 37000 feet. We noticed that ZDV had just handed off Aircraft X and Aircraft Z to ZKC both at 37000 feet. Aircraft X was out front of all three aircraft and the slowest of the three. ZKC had to speed Aircraft X up max forward; and turned Aircraft Z 20 degrees right so they could turn Aircraft Y 20 degrees right and slow him down as much as practical. The turn on Aircraft Y was not working so they had to climb him to 38000 feet; wrong altitude for direction of flight; to keep separation! All of this occurred within 15 miles from ZDV airspace. All three aircraft had come from the same ZDV sector. Decertify all ZDV 'controllers' and close ZDV for a week to run simulation problems for much needed retraining. Let the adjacent centers CONTROL the aircraft that would normally be 'observed' by the inadequate employees at ZDV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.