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Attributes | |
ACN | 144566 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : fsm |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 144566 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 300 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
We checked in with ZME with pilots discretion to 8000'. Then we were issued a clearance to cross 30 southwest of fsm at 11000'. While descending through 9700' we were asked to say altitude. We replied 9700' for 8000'. Then we asked center what our assigned altitude was. Center replied 11000'. Had center wanted to change our assigned altitude he should have stated either cross 30 southwest of fsm at 11000' and maintain 11000' , or amend altitude to maintain 11000' and cross 30 southwest of fsm at 11000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ASSIGNED ALT AMENDED BUT PHRASEOLOGY CONFUSING. ALT DEVIATION.
Narrative: WE CHKED IN WITH ZME WITH PLTS DISCRETION TO 8000'. THEN WE WERE ISSUED A CLRNC TO CROSS 30 SW OF FSM AT 11000'. WHILE DSNDING THROUGH 9700' WE WERE ASKED TO SAY ALT. WE REPLIED 9700' FOR 8000'. THEN WE ASKED CTR WHAT OUR ASSIGNED ALT WAS. CTR REPLIED 11000'. HAD CTR WANTED TO CHANGE OUR ASSIGNED ALT HE SHOULD HAVE STATED EITHER CROSS 30 SW OF FSM AT 11000' AND MAINTAIN 11000' , OR AMEND ALT TO MAINTAIN 11000' AND CROSS 30 SW OF FSM AT 11000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.