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Attributes | |
ACN | 237111 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mci |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 237111 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We received the following ambiguous clearance from kmci clearance delivery: cleared to atl, lakes 1 departure, razorback transition to butler (bum), springfield (sgf), walnut ridge (arg), memphis (mem) as filed. According to ground control the intent of this clearance was to send us over the following route: mkc/bum/sgf/arg/mem thus bypassing neosho (eos) and razorback (rzc). The wording of this clearance may be technically correct, but it allows for misinterp. If we had not questioned our routing we would have flown over both eos and rzc. The ground controller admitted that she had received numerous complaints over this and similar phraseology on other kmci sids, but that the wording was ATC directed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFUSING CLRNC PHRASEOLOGY INVITES A RTE DEV.
Narrative: WE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING AMBIGUOUS CLRNC FROM KMCI CLRNC DELIVERY: CLRED TO ATL, LAKES 1 DEP, RAZORBACK TRANSITION TO BUTLER (BUM), SPRINGFIELD (SGF), WALNUT RIDGE (ARG), MEMPHIS (MEM) AS FILED. ACCORDING TO GND CTL THE INTENT OF THIS CLRNC WAS TO SEND US OVER THE FOLLOWING RTE: MKC/BUM/SGF/ARG/MEM THUS BYPASSING NEOSHO (EOS) AND RAZORBACK (RZC). THE WORDING OF THIS CLRNC MAY BE TECHNICALLY CORRECT, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR MISINTERP. IF WE HAD NOT QUESTIONED OUR ROUTING WE WOULD HAVE FLOWN OVER BOTH EOS AND RZC. THE GND CTLR ADMITTED THAT SHE HAD RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS OVER THIS AND SIMILAR PHRASEOLOGY ON OTHER KMCI SIDS, BUT THAT THE WORDING WAS ATC DIRECTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.