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Attributes | |
ACN | 1448381 |
Time | |
Date | 201705 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | FRG.Airport |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28R Cherokee Arrow All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Other RNAV (GPS) Runway 19 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole/Turbo Seminole |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Commercial |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 7 Flight Crew Total 1350 Flight Crew Type 100 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 1000 Vertical 300 |
Narrative:
On final making a GPS approach to runway 19 at frg. Wind was about 60 degrees from my right at 14 gusting to 18. At 2 miles out; tower advised of one intersection departure before our arrival. I acknowledged. At 1 mile out; tower advised of 1 full length departure before our arrival. I acknowledged and said that I may have to go around. Tower told the seminole departing 'no delay.' seminole said he was rolling. Instead; he sat on the departure end of the runway for several seconds; as I was approaching at 85 knots. Just as the seminole began his takeoff roll; I did not think that I had enough separation to be comfortable. I initiated a go-around and advised tower that I was going around and would stay to the right of the runway. Tower said that there was no need to go around; she had adequate separation; and then; as I was already overtaking the departing aircraft; which was now about 400 feet down the runway from the threshold; tower said; 'don't go around;' to which I replied; 'I'm going around.' that was an unsafe instruction. Had I been an inexperienced pilot; I may have listened to the instruction and attempted a landing; possibly with less than an ideal outcome. At republic airport; I frequently am holding short of a runway waiting for a plane on a 3 or 4 mile final; so I applaud the controller's attempt to let an extra departure go before me. I have no problem with having to go around. I was shocked to hear the controller instruct me not to go around. I called the tower and spoke to a different controller and expressed my concerns.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28R pilot reported going around at FRG airport contrary to ATC direction when he became uncomfortable with the spacing on the departing aircraft.
Narrative: On final making a GPS approach to RWY 19 at FRG. Wind was about 60 degrees from my right at 14 gusting to 18. At 2 miles out; tower advised of one intersection departure before our arrival. I acknowledged. At 1 mile out; tower advised of 1 full length departure before our arrival. I acknowledged and said that I may have to go around. Tower told the Seminole departing 'No delay.' Seminole said he was rolling. Instead; he sat on the departure end of the runway for several seconds; as I was approaching at 85 knots. Just as the Seminole began his takeoff roll; I did not think that I had enough separation to be comfortable. I initiated a go-around and advised Tower that I was going around and would stay to the right of the runway. Tower said that there was no need to go around; she had adequate separation; and then; as I was already overtaking the departing aircraft; which was now about 400 feet down the runway from the threshold; Tower said; 'Don't go around;' to which I replied; 'I'm going around.' That was an unsafe instruction. Had I been an inexperienced pilot; I may have listened to the instruction and attempted a landing; possibly with less than an ideal outcome. At Republic airport; I frequently am holding short of a runway waiting for a plane on a 3 or 4 mile final; so I applaud the controller's attempt to let an extra departure go before me. I have no problem with having to go around. I was shocked to hear the controller instruct me not to go around. I called the tower and spoke to a different controller and expressed my concerns.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.