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Attributes | |
ACN | 144966 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tnp |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 24 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 560 |
ASRS Report | 144966 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
2 aircraft on downwind--one a sailplane small aircraft X carrying instrument and trnee, and the other an small aircraft Y. The sailplane X used a right-hand pattern. The small aircraft Y was using a left-hand pattern, which is normal at this airport. The sailplane was in an 800 FPM sink, normal pattern altitude, and had to land--no chance to alter pattern or make room for the small aircraft Y. So, for safety's sake, sailplane X turned early onto base leg. Now they were at the same altitude, 400' AGL. Small aircraft Y turned onto base also, a potential head-on collisions, so sailplane X turned early onto final, rocking wings as much as possible, fishtailing to expose almost everything it had, wishing the small aircraft Y pilot would look and see, but small aircraft Y turned onto final approximately 50 yds behind sailplane. Now they both were at 250' AGL. The small aircraft Y landed underneath the sailplane X and rolled west/O braking until small aircraft Y pilot saw sailplane X landing approximately 50 yds in front of him. The sailplane X pilot, always aware of the small aircraft Y's position, stretched his glide as long as he could before setting the glider down--and as he did, only then did the small aircraft Y pilot brake to stop his fast roll. This dangerous incident happened at 29 palms airport in very good, sunny WX, and the small aircraft Y pilot had the sun to his back. I cannot believe that the small aircraft Y pilot could not have seen the sailplane, especially since he had been briefed about sailplanes flying at this airport--but he still claimed, 'I did not see you.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA GLIDER IN PATTERN FOR LNDG AT UNCONTROLLED ARPT HAS NMAC WITH SMA ON OPPOSITE HAND TRAFFIC FOR THE SAME RWY.
Narrative: 2 ACFT ON DOWNWIND--ONE A SAILPLANE SMA X CARRYING INSTR AND TRNEE, AND THE OTHER AN SMA Y. THE SAILPLANE X USED A RIGHT-HAND PATTERN. THE SMA Y WAS USING A LEFT-HAND PATTERN, WHICH IS NORMAL AT THIS ARPT. THE SAILPLANE WAS IN AN 800 FPM SINK, NORMAL PATTERN ALT, AND HAD TO LAND--NO CHANCE TO ALTER PATTERN OR MAKE ROOM FOR THE SMA Y. SO, FOR SAFETY'S SAKE, SAILPLANE X TURNED EARLY ONTO BASE LEG. NOW THEY WERE AT THE SAME ALT, 400' AGL. SMA Y TURNED ONTO BASE ALSO, A POTENTIAL HEAD-ON COLLISIONS, SO SAILPLANE X TURNED EARLY ONTO FINAL, ROCKING WINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, FISHTAILING TO EXPOSE ALMOST EVERYTHING IT HAD, WISHING THE SMA Y PLT WOULD LOOK AND SEE, BUT SMA Y TURNED ONTO FINAL APPROX 50 YDS BEHIND SAILPLANE. NOW THEY BOTH WERE AT 250' AGL. THE SMA Y LANDED UNDERNEATH THE SAILPLANE X AND ROLLED W/O BRAKING UNTIL SMA Y PLT SAW SAILPLANE X LNDG APPROX 50 YDS IN FRONT OF HIM. THE SAILPLANE X PLT, ALWAYS AWARE OF THE SMA Y'S POS, STRETCHED HIS GLIDE AS LONG AS HE COULD BEFORE SETTING THE GLIDER DOWN--AND AS HE DID, ONLY THEN DID THE SMA Y PLT BRAKE TO STOP HIS FAST ROLL. THIS DANGEROUS INCIDENT HAPPENED AT 29 PALMS ARPT IN VERY GOOD, SUNNY WX, AND THE SMA Y PLT HAD THE SUN TO HIS BACK. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THE SMA Y PLT COULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE SAILPLANE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE HAD BEEN BRIEFED ABOUT SAILPLANES FLYING AT THIS ARPT--BUT HE STILL CLAIMED, 'I DID NOT SEE YOU.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.