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Attributes | |
ACN | 145841 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : unv |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 145841 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
After engine start broadcast taxiout on CTAF unicom. Contacted clearance delivery 118.55 broadcast runway and intentions. Was told aircraft on ILS 24 told to hold for release. After IFR clearance copy and readback. Inbound aircraft lands taxis off considerable wait (3-5 mins). Inquiry results in takeoff release with 3 mins time constraint to contact 134.8 ATC. Complete checklist switched to CTAF to announce takeoff. Looking down to left prior to runway incursion noticed another aircraft in landing rollout. Broadcast 'holding short with at least 2 mins remaining' on restriction, no cause for concern. After landing aircraft taxied off he remarked that I should have heard his marker report not wishing to continue discourse. Reassured no hazard or danger, and devoted myself to operating my aircraft. The reason for this report is to set forth the systemic communication problem attending IFR at on tower airport. Wind dictated 06 (040 degrees, 8 KTS), ceiling and visibility dictated ILS 24 (300', 3/4). 3 radio frequencys involved. Apparently everyone observed safe practice as published. 1 aircraft was commuter and I don't know what he will do or say, so I have to protect myself and report what everyone who flies out of state college knows--names, the place needs a tower. In closing, I might add I had a right seat passenger who can confirm the events as the speaker was in use, and I requested release confirmation twice to be absolutely sure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT GETS RELEASE FOR TKOF FROM DEP CTL AT NON TWR ARPT AND STARTS TO TAXI ONTO THE RWY AS ANOTHER ACFT LANDS.
Narrative: AFTER ENG START BROADCAST TAXIOUT ON CTAF UNICOM. CONTACTED CLRNC DELIVERY 118.55 BROADCAST RWY AND INTENTIONS. WAS TOLD ACFT ON ILS 24 TOLD TO HOLD FOR RELEASE. AFTER IFR CLRNC COPY AND READBACK. INBND ACFT LANDS TAXIS OFF CONSIDERABLE WAIT (3-5 MINS). INQUIRY RESULTS IN TKOF RELEASE WITH 3 MINS TIME CONSTRAINT TO CONTACT 134.8 ATC. COMPLETE CHKLIST SWITCHED TO CTAF TO ANNOUNCE TKOF. LOOKING DOWN TO LEFT PRIOR TO RWY INCURSION NOTICED ANOTHER ACFT IN LNDG ROLLOUT. BROADCAST 'HOLDING SHORT WITH AT LEAST 2 MINS REMAINING' ON RESTRICTION, NO CAUSE FOR CONCERN. AFTER LNDG ACFT TAXIED OFF HE REMARKED THAT I SHOULD HAVE HEARD HIS MARKER RPT NOT WISHING TO CONTINUE DISCOURSE. REASSURED NO HAZARD OR DANGER, AND DEVOTED MYSELF TO OPERATING MY ACFT. THE REASON FOR THIS RPT IS TO SET FORTH THE SYSTEMIC COM PROB ATTENDING IFR AT ON TWR ARPT. WIND DICTATED 06 (040 DEGS, 8 KTS), CEILING AND VISIBILITY DICTATED ILS 24 (300', 3/4). 3 RADIO FREQS INVOLVED. APPARENTLY EVERYONE OBSERVED SAFE PRACTICE AS PUBLISHED. 1 ACFT WAS COMMUTER AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO OR SAY, SO I HAVE TO PROTECT MYSELF AND RPT WHAT EVERYONE WHO FLIES OUT OF STATE COLLEGE KNOWS--NAMES, THE PLACE NEEDS A TWR. IN CLOSING, I MIGHT ADD I HAD A RIGHT SEAT PAX WHO CAN CONFIRM THE EVENTS AS THE SPEAKER WAS IN USE, AND I REQUESTED RELEASE CONFIRMATION TWICE TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.