Medium large transport flight crew concern regarding takeoff RVR minimums.

Attributes
ACN	146498
Time
Date	199005
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : mke
State Reference	WI
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 4500
ASRS Report	146498
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We arrived at the aircraft about xx:10 in mke for flight to mem. Ground control said the RVR was hovering around 600' RVR and the ATIS was advising runway 07 departures. We told ground that we could not use runway 07 with that visibility. Ground then gave us the three RVR's for runways 1L and 19R all of which were above 600'. We asked for the wind (calm) and decided on runway 19R after consulting the 10-9A. Arriving at runway 19R, after a departing medium large transport, we were cleared into position and hold and advised the TDZ RVR was 1000'. We asked for the mid and rollout and were told that technically the only RVR for that runway was the TDZ. The first officer then asked for the RVR's for runway 1L and all three were above 600'. At this point, having been given takeoff clearance, I decided to takeoff and broke out about 600' AGL. Technically I think I was in violation of the FARS but common sense would tell you the visibility was adequate. Also the 10-9A for mke shows TDZ, mid and rollout RVR for both runways 1L and 19R.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MLG FLT CREW CONCERN REGARDING TKOF RVR MINIMUMS.

Narrative: WE ARRIVED AT THE ACFT ABOUT XX:10 IN MKE FOR FLT TO MEM. GND CTL SAID THE RVR WAS HOVERING AROUND 600' RVR AND THE ATIS WAS ADVISING RWY 07 DEPS. WE TOLD GND THAT WE COULD NOT USE RWY 07 WITH THAT VISIBILITY. GND THEN GAVE US THE THREE RVR'S FOR RWYS 1L AND 19R ALL OF WHICH WERE ABOVE 600'. WE ASKED FOR THE WIND (CALM) AND DECIDED ON RWY 19R AFTER CONSULTING THE 10-9A. ARRIVING AT RWY 19R, AFTER A DEPARTING MLG, WE WERE CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD AND ADVISED THE TDZ RVR WAS 1000'. WE ASKED FOR THE MID AND ROLLOUT AND WERE TOLD THAT TECHNICALLY THE ONLY RVR FOR THAT RWY WAS THE TDZ. THE F/O THEN ASKED FOR THE RVR'S FOR RWY 1L AND ALL THREE WERE ABOVE 600'. AT THIS POINT, HAVING BEEN GIVEN TKOF CLRNC, I DECIDED TO TKOF AND BROKE OUT ABOUT 600' AGL. TECHNICALLY I THINK I WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE FARS BUT COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL YOU THE VISIBILITY WAS ADEQUATE. ALSO THE 10-9A FOR MKE SHOWS TDZ, MID AND ROLLOUT RVR FOR BOTH RWYS 1L AND 19R.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.