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ZOA center controller reported problems associated with the military; its use of special airspace; and the repercussions on commercial aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1470164 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201708 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZOA.ARTCC |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Enroute |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 9 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Fasfac (fleet area control and surveillance facility) has been taking W283/285 a/B/C/D; which shuts down the offshore/coast departures. This puts all the departures in the same corridor. It is unsafe because of the different types of aircraft props/business jets/commercial. It adds complexity and more coordination with sector 11 and 13. It also adds to the ave traffic area. A lot of these aircraft are going to mexico or san and don't level off until los angeles' airspace. I know management is pulling data to see if the military is utilizing that extra chunk of airspace.don't let the military shut down the offshore and coast routings. It doesn't provide service to the user and causes more complex coordination and traffic situations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZOA Center Controller reported problems associated with the military; its use of special airspace; and the repercussions on commercial aircraft.
Narrative: FASFAC (Fleet Area Control and Surveillance Facility) has been taking W283/285 A/B/C/D; which shuts down the offshore/coast departures. This puts all the departures in the same corridor. It is unsafe because of the different types of aircraft props/business jets/commercial. It adds complexity and more coordination with sector 11 and 13. It also adds to the AVE traffic area. A lot of these aircraft are going to Mexico or SAN and don't level off until Los Angeles' airspace. I know management is pulling data to see if the military is utilizing that extra chunk of airspace.Don't let the military shut down the offshore and coast routings. It doesn't provide service to the user and causes more complex coordination and traffic situations.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.