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Attributes | |
ACN | 1473587 |
Time | |
Date | 201708 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
While I had some success with an acknowledgment of the deficiency; no action has been taken and it is time to address this. 1.the landing data [sources] are not accurate for -800 landing distance (too conservative). 2.our rule to not use [bracketed] autobrake settings ensures that every single -800 landing without autobrakes. At our heaviest; at the most danger of going off of the end of the runway; we turn 'off' autobrakes rather than use max; which is a rational solution to an irrational situation. On this flight; I was flying with a probationary pilot with only [few] months of experience. He (as everyone does) chose 'off' since everything but max was bracketed. We were able to stop and exit the runway but autobrakes would have helped immensely. When I recently addressed this with standards; nobody even remembered why the policy was in place to begin with; presumably because of turnover. This is a known safety issue. It makes us much less safe than the alternative but offers no advantage.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-800 Captain reported company policy has been to not use autobrakes at airports with short runways at close to maximum landing weights.
Narrative: While I had some success with an acknowledgment of the deficiency; no action has been taken and it is time to address this. 1.The landing data [sources] are not accurate for -800 landing distance (too conservative). 2.Our rule to not use [bracketed] autobrake settings ensures that every single -800 landing without autobrakes. At our heaviest; at the most danger of going off of the end of the runway; we turn 'off' autobrakes rather than use Max; which is a rational solution to an irrational situation. On this flight; I was flying with a probationary Pilot with only [few] months of experience. He (as everyone does) chose 'Off' since everything but Max was bracketed. We were able to stop and exit the runway but autobrakes would have helped immensely. When I recently addressed this with Standards; nobody even remembered why the policy was in place to begin with; presumably because of turnover. This is a known safety issue. It makes us much less safe than the alternative but offers no advantage.
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