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Attributes | |
ACN | 1476142 |
Time | |
Date | 201708 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SCT.TRACON |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | SID PIGGN |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 4.0 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Other / Unknown Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
I was working pacific when air carrier X called me on the departure opposite direction (we were south; he departed north). We've complained about this procedure and this is the third time they've entered below the minimum vectoring altitude (MVA) that our crew knows about. Air carrier X was entering a 3500 foot MVA level at 3000 feet because we did not talk to him in time. If it was 1 minute later air carrier X would have hit a 5200 foot MVA; followed by 5800; 7800 foot MVA. Change the procedure. Opposite direction departure should not be cleared well below the mountains when they turn into the mountain within a matter of minutes.change the procedure. Opposite direction departure should not be cleared well below the mountains when they turn into the mountain within a matter of minutes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Traffic Controller reported a departure on a SID that did not make contact in a timely manner and flew below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude.
Narrative: I was working pacific when Air Carrier X called me on the departure opposite direction (we were South; he departed North). We've complained about this procedure and this is the third time they've entered below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude (MVA) that our crew knows about. Air Carrier X was entering a 3500 foot MVA level at 3000 feet because we did not talk to him in time. If it was 1 minute later Air Carrier X would have hit a 5200 foot MVA; followed by 5800; 7800 foot MVA. Change the procedure. Opposite direction departure should not be cleared well below the mountains when they turn into the mountain within a matter of minutes.Change the procedure. Opposite direction departure should not be cleared well below the mountains when they turn into the mountain within a matter of minutes.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.