Narrative:

Contacted phx approach at warly intersection to request flight following while shooting a practice VOR a approach into chandler's stellar airpark while on an INS recurrency training flight. Controller responded that the approach does not require TCA clearance and to call him after the missed approach if we needed other service. I responded that due to the large vol of traffic in the area, that I would really like to have flight following. After a lengthy silence, the controller responded perturbedly with a squawk code. When almost at the FAF (claus intersection), another small aircraft crossed in front of us at the same altitude within 300' horizontal. No traffic alert was ever issued. Visibility at the time was poor to the west due to the sun being low in the sky and some haze. After watching the other aircraft, it appeared to be in the holding pattern at claus. Unless the aircraft had a waiver, it should have been squawking mode C. I don't know why we weren't told of the other traffic and I called an approach supervisor after we landed. He said he would look into the matter, but didn't have recorded radar data to review.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA CFI COMPLAINT OF NO TRAFFIC ADVISORY DURING VMC OPERATION INTO A PRACTICE APCH AREA AFTER REQUESTING FLT FOLLOWING FROM APCH CTLR AT A PHASE I FAC. NMAC.

Narrative: CONTACTED PHX APCH AT WARLY INTXN TO REQUEST FLT FOLLOWING WHILE SHOOTING A PRACTICE VOR A APCH INTO CHANDLER'S STELLAR AIRPARK WHILE ON AN INS RECURRENCY TRNING FLT. CTLR RESPONDED THAT THE APCH DOES NOT REQUIRE TCA CLRNC AND TO CALL HIM AFTER THE MISSED APCH IF WE NEEDED OTHER SVC. I RESPONDED THAT DUE TO THE LARGE VOL OF TFC IN THE AREA, THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE FLT FOLLOWING. AFTER A LENGTHY SILENCE, THE CTLR RESPONDED PERTURBEDLY WITH A SQUAWK CODE. WHEN ALMOST AT THE FAF (CLAUS INTXN), ANOTHER SMA CROSSED IN FRONT OF US AT THE SAME ALT WITHIN 300' HORIZ. NO TFC ALERT WAS EVER ISSUED. VISIBILITY AT THE TIME WAS POOR TO THE W DUE TO THE SUN BEING LOW IN THE SKY AND SOME HAZE. AFTER WATCHING THE OTHER ACFT, IT APPEARED TO BE IN THE HOLDING PATTERN AT CLAUS. UNLESS THE ACFT HAD A WAIVER, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SQUAWKING MODE C. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WEREN'T TOLD OF THE OTHER TFC AND I CALLED AN APCH SUPVR AFTER WE LANDED. HE SAID HE WOULD LOOK INTO THE MATTER, BUT DIDN'T HAVE RECORDED RADAR DATA TO REVIEW.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.