<< >> NASA ASRS Report 149052, June 1990

Cvg ground control failed to give clearance to hold short until almost too late. ATCT ground control said she was not given the correct briefing when taking over the position.

Attributes
ACN	149052
Time
Date	199006
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cvg
State Reference	OH
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : dal
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	149052
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Deviation Intra Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

We were cleared by ground control at cvg to taxi to runway 27L via taxiway a. This causes aircraft to cross approach end of runway 27R. No hold short instructions were given. As we were approaching hold line for runway 27R, ground control in frantic voice said to hold short of runway 27R. Brakes were immediately applied. Commuter aircraft on tight right base then landed on runway 27R. If we had not stopped then there could have been a close call or a go around by commuter aircraft. I questioned ground control if she expected us to hold short of runway 27R. She said that they had just switched positions and that she was told by previous controller that we would hold short. We were never told to hold short of runway 27R. Poor xfer of control and poor communications nearly caused a possible serious incident.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CVG GND CTL FAILED TO GIVE CLRNC TO HOLD SHORT UNTIL ALMOST TOO LATE. ATCT GC SAID SHE WAS NOT GIVEN THE CORRECT BRIEFING WHEN TAKING OVER THE POSITION.

Narrative: WE WERE CLRED BY GND CTL AT CVG TO TAXI TO RWY 27L VIA TXWY A. THIS CAUSES ACFT TO CROSS APCH END OF RWY 27R. NO HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN. AS WE WERE APCHING HOLD LINE FOR RWY 27R, GND CTL IN FRANTIC VOICE SAID TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 27R. BRAKES WERE IMMEDIATELY APPLIED. COMMUTER ACFT ON TIGHT R BASE THEN LANDED ON RWY 27R. IF WE HAD NOT STOPPED THEN THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A CLOSE CALL OR A GO AROUND BY COMMUTER ACFT. I QUESTIONED GND CTL IF SHE EXPECTED US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 27R. SHE SAID THAT THEY HAD JUST SWITCHED POSITIONS AND THAT SHE WAS TOLD BY PREVIOUS CTLR THAT WE WOULD HOLD SHORT. WE WERE NEVER TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 27R. POOR XFER OF CTL AND POOR COMS NEARLY CAUSED A POSSIBLE SERIOUS INCIDENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.