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Attributes | |
ACN | 1501438 |
Time | |
Date | 201712 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZFW.ARTCC |
State Reference | TX |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Direct Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 21.0 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
I routed the aircraft X to go around restricted areas which were active up to 35000 feet. The next controller turned the aircraft X direct to a fix. When I realized he'd turned the aircraft I called him to warn him. He decided he wouldn't even try to turn him out at that point; saying if being in the restricted airspace could hurt them then (something). When I got off position moments later I asked the supervisor who'd been standing behind the controller while that was happening if he'd seen that and he nodded; seemingly meaning yes. I asked if I needed to report it. He said no; then yes. I asked him if he was going to fill out a mandatory occurrence report (mor) since I thought I didn't need to if he did. He replied he didn't know if he'd really seen it.how are we supposed to be aware of these issues if the supervisor waffles on whether or not to address dangerous situations? Or if turning an aircraft into an active restricted area isn't dangerous; please let us know so we can all do that. For what it's worth; the sector had a radar assist trainee and instructor; neither of whom seemed to alert the radar controller to the danger. What's the point of either of them?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZFW Center Controller observed another sector issue a route to an aircraft through Restricted Airspace.
Narrative: I routed the Aircraft X to go around Restricted Areas which were active up to 35000 feet. The next controller turned the Aircraft X direct to a fix. When I realized he'd turned the aircraft I called him to warn him. He decided he wouldn't even try to turn him out at that point; saying if being in the Restricted Airspace could hurt them then (something). When I got off position moments later I asked the Supervisor who'd been standing behind the controller while that was happening if he'd seen that and he nodded; seemingly meaning yes. I asked if I needed to report it. He said no; then yes. I asked him if he was going to fill out a Mandatory Occurrence Report (MOR) since I thought I didn't need to if he did. He replied he didn't know if he'd really seen it.How are we supposed to be aware of these issues if the supervisor waffles on whether or not to address dangerous situations? Or if turning an aircraft into an active restricted area isn't dangerous; please let us know so we can all do that. For what it's worth; the sector had a Radar Assist trainee and instructor; neither of whom seemed to alert the Radar Controller to the danger. What's the point of either of them?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.