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Attributes | |
ACN | 1517588 |
Time | |
Date | 201802 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | CLT.Airport |
State Reference | NC |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR CHSLY3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
I was cleared to descend via CHSLY3 landing south. We had a hard altitude programmed at bluej at FL270. We set 6000 feet into MCP. The aircraft was on the VNAV path. The descent began and grew steep and I could not maintain the path and the reduce speed. ATC asked if we would make our restriction; we thought we could then asked for relief at nodew. ATC issued a new clearance and asked us to call them about a possible altitude deviation. We landed without incident. I called the ATC facility and talked with the controller. He emphasized that this was a recurring problem with the 737-800 fleet on this arrival when landing south. The controller also stated there would be no deviation filed. I feel if this is a recurring problem perhaps a point of emphasis could be placed in the company pages under optimum profile descent arrivals section. It appears the opd is very steep in the 737. A point of emphasis could be placed in the company pages cautioning the 737 fleet of this occurrence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 flight crew reported that the CHSLY3 ODP plans the descent path so steep that the speed constraints are not achievable with the use of the speed brake.
Narrative: I was cleared to descend via CHSLY3 landing south. We had a hard altitude programmed at BLUEJ AT FL270. We set 6000 feet into MCP. The aircraft was on the VNAV PATH. The descent began and grew steep and I could not maintain the path and the reduce speed. ATC asked if we would make our restriction; we thought we could then asked for relief at NODEW. ATC issued a new clearance and asked us to call them about a possible altitude deviation. We landed without incident. I called the ATC facility and talked with the controller. He emphasized that this was a recurring problem with the 737-800 fleet on this arrival when landing south. The controller also stated there would be no deviation filed. I feel if this is a recurring problem perhaps a point of emphasis could be placed in the company pages under OPTIMUM PROFILE DESCENT Arrivals section. It appears the OPD is very steep in the 737. A point of emphasis could be placed in the company pages cautioning the 737 fleet of this occurrence.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.