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Attributes | |
ACN | 151912 |
Time | |
Date | 199007 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 151912 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On downwind for a VOR-G approach to runway 22 at lga, approach control told us, 'air carrier X, turn left to 300, intercept final approach course and cleared for VOR-G approach to 22.' we started the turn, but it became apparent to us that we were too close in for the approach and that approach control had made a mistake in issuing us this clearance. We rolled out of the turn and tried to verify the clearance with approach control but were unable to get a word in edgewise due to the ridiculously high vol of radio traffic. Finally approach control gave us instructions to turn right to 070 degrees and maintain 3000', and advised us that the previously issued approach clearance was not for us, but was for an air carrier Y flight. Approach control made a mistake and used our call sign instead of acy's and we were unable to verify and correct due to overload on the approach controller. Luckily the problem was resolved west/O further incident and no conflict occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT TRACK HEADING DEVIATION.
Narrative: ON DOWNWIND FOR A VOR-G APCH TO RWY 22 AT LGA, APCH CTL TOLD US, 'ACR X, TURN LEFT TO 300, INTERCEPT FINAL APCH COURSE AND CLRED FOR VOR-G APCH TO 22.' WE STARTED THE TURN, BUT IT BECAME APPARENT TO US THAT WE WERE TOO CLOSE IN FOR THE APCH AND THAT APCH CTL HAD MADE A MISTAKE IN ISSUING US THIS CLRNC. WE ROLLED OUT OF THE TURN AND TRIED TO VERIFY THE CLRNC WITH APCH CTL BUT WERE UNABLE TO GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE DUE TO THE RIDICULOUSLY HIGH VOL OF RADIO TFC. FINALLY APCH CTL GAVE US INSTRUCTIONS TO TURN RIGHT TO 070 DEGS AND MAINTAIN 3000', AND ADVISED US THAT THE PREVIOUSLY ISSUED APCH CLRNC WAS NOT FOR US, BUT WAS FOR AN ACR Y FLT. APCH CTL MADE A MISTAKE AND USED OUR CALL SIGN INSTEAD OF ACY'S AND WE WERE UNABLE TO VERIFY AND CORRECT DUE TO OVERLOAD ON THE APCH CTLR. LUCKILY THE PROB WAS RESOLVED W/O FURTHER INCIDENT AND NO CONFLICT OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.