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Attributes | |
ACN | 1521062 |
Time | |
Date | 201802 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | OPF.Airport |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 40 Flight Crew Total 5500 Flight Crew Type 1500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Ground Conflict Critical Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Incursion Taxiway Ground Incursion Runway |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 10 |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 9L; I advised tower that I could exit taxiway golf. Tower replied to exit G and contact ground. While exiting G and attempting to clear the runway; an aircraft passed westbound on taxiway november in front of me. I had to stop short of fully crossing the hold short line on G for runway 9L. I had already changed frequencies to ground so inquired as to my taxi clearance and the other aircraft. I was told to proceed on golf to tango then to the FBO. While taxiing I asked ground if they had time for a question regarding the conflicting aircraft. I was told that I was not clear to enter taxiway north and that clearing the runway and remaining clear of any conflicting taxiing aircraft was the pilot's responsibility by regulation. I mentioned the fact I was unable to clear the hold short line and still avoid the other taxiing aircraft. Again was told that clearing the runway fully was my responsibility and that the hold short line did not apply as that was only for traffic approaching or facing the runway not exiting it. I did not speak further on the radio; and should have just asked for phone number. However; there was no way I could clear the runway environment and not enter a portion of the parallel taxiway as required in the aim; 4-3-20; my aircraft is 53 ft long; and it barely worked out. If I had been in a gulfstream and attempted to clear the runway the taxiing aircraft and I would have made noise. I guess in the future I should hold short of the runway and tell tower I am unable to clear do to ground traffic conflicts.the ground controller in this case is either misinformed of the guidance given to pilots or there is a serious conflict between current training guidance in the pc/G (pilot controller glossary) and the 8900. Aim 4.3.20. Exiting the runway after landing the following procedures must be followed after landing and reaching taxi speed. A. Exit the runway without delay at the first available taxiway or on a taxiway as instructed by ATC. Pilots must not exit the landing runway onto another runway unless authorized by ATC. At airports with an operating control tower; pilots should not stop or reverse course on the runway without first obtaining ATC approval. B. Taxi clear of the runway unless otherwise directed by ATC. An aircraft is considered clear of the runway when all parts of the aircraft are past the runway edge and there are no restrictions to its continued movement beyond the runway holding position markings. In the absence of ATC instructions; the pilot is expected to taxi clear of the landing runway by taxiing beyond the runway holding position markings associated with the landing runway; even if that requires the aircraft to protrude into or cross another taxiway or ramp area. Once all parts of the aircraft have crossed the runway holding position markings; the pilot must hold unless further instructions have been issued by ATC. Note 1. The tower will issue the pilot instructions which will permit the aircraft to enter another taxiway; runway; or ramp area when required. 2. Guidance contained in subparagraphs a and b above is considered an integral part of the landing clearance and satisfies the requirement of 14 crash fire rescue equipment section 91.129.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Corporate pilot reported a ground conflict after exiting the runway while attempting to clear the hold bars.
Narrative: After landing on runway 9L; I advised tower that I could exit taxiway Golf. Tower replied to exit G and contact ground. While exiting G and attempting to clear the runway; an aircraft passed westbound on taxiway November in front of me. I had to stop short of fully crossing the hold short line on G for runway 9L. I had already changed frequencies to ground so inquired as to my taxi clearance and the other aircraft. I was told to proceed on Golf to Tango then to the FBO. While taxiing I asked Ground if they had time for a question regarding the conflicting aircraft. I was told that I was not clear to enter taxiway N and that clearing the runway and remaining clear of any conflicting taxiing aircraft was the pilot's responsibility by regulation. I mentioned the fact I was unable to clear the hold short line and still avoid the other taxiing aircraft. Again was told that clearing the runway fully was my responsibility and that the hold short line did not apply as that was only for traffic approaching or facing the runway not exiting it. I did not speak further on the radio; and should have just asked for phone number. However; there was no way I could clear the runway environment and not enter a portion of the parallel taxiway as REQUIRED in the AIM; 4-3-20; my aircraft is 53 ft long; and it barely worked out. If I had been in a Gulfstream and attempted to clear the runway the taxiing aircraft and I would have made noise. I guess in the future I should hold short of the runway and tell tower I am unable to clear do to ground traffic conflicts.The ground controller in this case is either misinformed of the guidance given to pilots or there is a serious conflict between current training guidance in the PC/G (Pilot Controller Glossary) and the 8900. AIM 4.3.20. Exiting the Runway after landing the following procedures must be followed after landing and reaching taxi speed. a. Exit the runway without delay at the first available taxiway or on a taxiway as instructed by ATC. Pilots must not exit the landing runway onto another runway unless authorized by ATC. At airports with an operating control tower; pilots should not stop or reverse course on the runway without first obtaining ATC approval. b. Taxi clear of the runway unless otherwise directed by ATC. An aircraft is considered clear of the runway when all parts of the aircraft are past the runway edge and there are no restrictions to its continued movement beyond the runway holding position markings. In the absence of ATC instructions; the pilot is expected to taxi clear of the landing runway by taxiing beyond the runway holding position markings associated with the landing runway; even if that requires the aircraft to protrude into or cross another taxiway or ramp area. Once all parts of the aircraft have crossed the runway holding position markings; the pilot must hold unless further instructions have been issued by ATC. NOTE 1. The tower will issue the pilot instructions which will permit the aircraft to enter another taxiway; runway; or ramp area when required. 2. Guidance contained in subparagraphs a and b above is considered an integral part of the landing clearance and satisfies the requirement of 14 CFR Section 91.129.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.