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Attributes | |
ACN | 1527071 |
Time | |
Date | 201803 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | CLT.Airport |
State Reference | NC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 900 (CRJ900) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR CHSLY3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
I was working satellites sector when I observed aircraft X coming in the CHSLY3 arrival at the top end of window on the short side. Aircraft X crossed nodew at 13;400 feet instead of 9;000 feet! This happened because our altitude windows are too broad. The pilot is usually letting the FMS fly; so I'm not sure why it doesn't tell them they cannot make the descents. Maybe computers aren't smarter than humans? I don't know. Anyways; center doesn't care because he is in the window; the pilot doesn't care; because he is not getting spun. So here we are stuck working a high arrivals with conflicting aircraft departing. Same as other reports that I have filed. This plane had to go to a different runway to lose altitude to land.change the arrival windows; change the optimized profile descents; or change our letter of agreement with center. Any of those would help.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLT TRACON Controller and pilot reported the pilot did not comply with the crossing restriction on the RNAV STAR.
Narrative: I was working Satellites Sector when I observed Aircraft X coming in the CHSLY3 arrival at the top end of window on the short side. Aircraft X crossed NODEW at 13;400 feet instead of 9;000 feet! This happened because our altitude windows are too broad. The pilot is usually letting the FMS fly; so I'm not sure why it doesn't tell them they cannot make the descents. Maybe computers aren't smarter than humans? I don't know. Anyways; Center doesn't care because he is in the window; the pilot doesn't care; because he is not getting spun. So here we are stuck working a high arrivals with conflicting aircraft departing. Same as other reports that I have filed. This plane had to go to a different runway to lose altitude to land.Change the arrival windows; change the optimized profile descents; or change our letter of agreement with Center. Any of those would help.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.