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Attributes | |
ACN | 1534339 |
Time | |
Date | 201804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MMU.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Citation Excel (C560XL) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Incursion Runway |
Narrative:
4th leg ending in 12 hour duty day with early shows first 2 days. Everything fine on taxi-entered run-up area as instructed by ground with approximately 10 min clearance release. At 9 min mark ground control instructed aircraft Y to move up to hold short and contact tower. Aircraft Y not in run-up area. Queried ground if that was for aircraft X and they replied negative. Happened a second time with same results. Ground control then asked if aircraft X was in run-up area and we said yes and were given instructions to move to hold short of runway 23 and monitor tower. Tower was having trouble with landing clearance instructions with a small civilian cessna approximately 7 miles from runway 23. Tower then told aircraft X to take it on the roll runway 23 with the civilian cessna 4 miles out. I started to move forward and just crossed the hold short; stopped; and asked my partner if we had take-off clearance. He queried tower who hesitated and then asked if we could hold short. He replied we had crossed the hold short. Tower issued a go-around to the cessna @ approximately 3 miles and the cessna reported that he had our aircraft in sight. 20 seconds later; tower issued us a take-off clearance and we departed uneventfully. On take-off the cessna was still outside 2 miles and tower never queried us or asked for any additional information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CE-560XLS Captain reported ATC issuing a pseudo takeoff clearance using nonstandard phraseology that caused the pilot to stop and clarify after crossing the hold short lines.
Narrative: 4th leg ending in 12 hour duty day with early shows first 2 days. Everything fine on taxi-entered run-up area as instructed by ground with approximately 10 min clearance release. At 9 min mark ground control instructed Aircraft Y to move up to hold short and contact tower. Aircraft Y not in run-up area. Queried ground if that was for Aircraft X and they replied negative. Happened a second time with same results. Ground control then asked if Aircraft X was in run-up area and we said yes and were given instructions to move to hold short of Runway 23 and monitor tower. Tower was having trouble with landing clearance instructions with a small civilian Cessna approximately 7 miles from runway 23. Tower then told Aircraft X to take it on the roll runway 23 with the civilian Cessna 4 miles out. I started to move forward and just crossed the hold short; stopped; and asked my partner if we had take-off clearance. He queried tower who hesitated and then asked if we could hold short. He replied we had crossed the hold short. Tower issued a go-around to the Cessna @ approximately 3 miles and the Cessna reported that he had our aircraft in sight. 20 seconds later; tower issued us a take-off clearance and we departed uneventfully. On take-off the Cessna was still outside 2 miles and tower never queried us or asked for any additional information.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.