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Small aircraft pilot accuses reporter of creating an near midair collision with his helicopter while in the traffic pattern at sus.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 154397 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199008 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sus |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 1700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sus tower : mht |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 154397 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I fly a helicopter for radio station traffic reports. While flying over spirity of st louis airport, an aircraft in the pattern declared an near miss to the tower. I had the aircraft in sight on the downwind leg of the traffic pattern and told the tower he was in sight. The other aircraft passed behind my helicopter and in my opinion was never close enough to us to be a hazard. After the incident I called the tower at their request and was told they had us both in sight but couldn't tell how close we were. In the future, when flying over this airport, I'll request a higher altitude to be well above the pattern. Also the training in the area is so congested it's hard to get clearance from the tower at the 5 mi mark when just flying through.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT ACCUSES REPORTER OF CREATING AN NMAC WITH HIS HELICOPTER WHILE IN THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AT SUS.
Narrative: I FLY A HELI FOR RADIO STATION TFC RPTS. WHILE FLYING OVER SPIRITY OF ST LOUIS ARPT, AN ACFT IN THE PATTERN DECLARED AN NEAR MISS TO THE TWR. I HAD THE ACFT IN SIGHT ON THE DOWNWIND LEG OF THE TFC PATTERN AND TOLD THE TWR HE WAS IN SIGHT. THE OTHER ACFT PASSED BEHIND MY HELI AND IN MY OPINION WAS NEVER CLOSE ENOUGH TO US TO BE A HAZARD. AFTER THE INCIDENT I CALLED THE TWR AT THEIR REQUEST AND WAS TOLD THEY HAD US BOTH IN SIGHT BUT COULDN'T TELL HOW CLOSE WE WERE. IN THE FUTURE, WHEN FLYING OVER THIS ARPT, I'LL REQUEST A HIGHER ALT TO BE WELL ABOVE THE PATTERN. ALSO THE TRNING IN THE AREA IS SO CONGESTED IT'S HARD TO GET CLRNC FROM THE TWR AT THE 5 MI MARK WHEN JUST FLYING THROUGH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.