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Attributes | |
ACN | 154775 |
Time | |
Date | 199008 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mt |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 39000 msl bound upper : 39000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czul |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 20000 |
ASRS Report | 154775 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X from ory-atl at FL390, level for several mins, climbed at controller request. Air carrier Y crossed in front of us from left to right at same flight level, approximately 30 degrees right of our course. Don't think he saw us because he was approaching from our left to pass in front and took no action. We got a slight jolt from his wake. Asked controller if he had a widebody transport in our area, he said yes at FL350. I called again and said the traffic was at FL390. Controller paused and said 'roger.' nothing else was said. We (crew) surmised from controller's tone that controller had made an error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION FROM ACR Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X FROM ORY-ATL AT FL390, LEVEL FOR SEVERAL MINS, CLBED AT CTLR REQUEST. ACR Y CROSSED IN FRONT OF US FROM LEFT TO RIGHT AT SAME FLT LEVEL, APPROX 30 DEGS RIGHT OF OUR COURSE. DON'T THINK HE SAW US BECAUSE HE WAS APCHING FROM OUR LEFT TO PASS IN FRONT AND TOOK NO ACTION. WE GOT A SLIGHT JOLT FROM HIS WAKE. ASKED CTLR IF HE HAD A WDB IN OUR AREA, HE SAID YES AT FL350. I CALLED AGAIN AND SAID THE TFC WAS AT FL390. CTLR PAUSED AND SAID 'ROGER.' NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID. WE (CREW) SURMISED FROM CTLR'S TONE THAT CTLR HAD MADE AN ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.