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Attributes | |
ACN | 1578343 |
Time | |
Date | 201809 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZAU.ARTCC |
State Reference | IL |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 26 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
[Don't know] if weather west of ZAU was necessitating odd routes or dispatchers are unfamiliar with optimal routes out of dtw with the dtw metroplex implementation. Aircraft X departed dtw for ZZZ. The aircraft had filed the RNAV departure procedure that departs into ZID and replaces the departure route over rid (barri; barrt; I looked at the previous route; that's what he had.) aircraft X then filed over vhp and points west to ZZZ. The LOA between ZAU and ZOB requires dtw departures to be on the sndrs SID; and that ZOB leave them on the filed route; ZAU has control for turns. ZOB cleared aircraft X direct vhp; which avoided ZID and brought aircraft X perilously close to fwa and the arrival stream into dtw (via the hanbl STAR); which is exactly what we're [trying to] avoid by having ZOB leave aircraft on the SID. Also; this aircraft climbed exceptionally poorly. That's another serious of reports. ZOB [should have] left the aircraft on the route; at least into ZID. ZAU has control for turns on sndrs SID departures; there's no mention of aircraft ZOB shortcuts. ZOB should be discouraged from these reckless shortcuts when they (should) have an idea ZAU has worked to prevent them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Chicago Center Controller reported a route change due to Detroit Metroplex; that had an aircraft's route too close to FWA and the arrival stream into DTW.
Narrative: [Don't know] if weather west of ZAU was necessitating odd routes or dispatchers are unfamiliar with optimal routes out of DTW with the DTW Metroplex implementation. Aircraft X departed DTW for ZZZ. The aircraft had filed the RNAV departure procedure that departs into ZID and replaces the departure route over RID (BARRI; BARRT; I looked at the previous route; that's what he had.) Aircraft X then filed over VHP and points west to ZZZ. The LOA between ZAU and ZOB requires DTW departures to be on the SNDRS SID; and that ZOB leave them on the filed route; ZAU has control for turns. ZOB cleared Aircraft X direct VHP; which avoided ZID and brought Aircraft X perilously close to FWA and the arrival stream into DTW (via the HANBL STAR); which is exactly what we're [trying to] avoid by having ZOB leave aircraft on the SID. Also; this aircraft climbed exceptionally poorly. That's another serious of reports. ZOB [should have] left the aircraft on the route; at least into ZID. ZAU has control for turns on SNDRS SID departures; there's no mention of aircraft ZOB shortcuts. ZOB should be discouraged from these reckless shortcuts when they (should) have an idea ZAU has worked to prevent them.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.