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Attributes | |
ACN | 1610736 |
Time | |
Date | 201901 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ATL.Airport |
State Reference | GA |
Environment | |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
We briefed the entire flight on the ground prior to departure due to the length of the flight and the inclement weather in atl. The first officer (first officer) was the PF (pilot flying.) he briefed that 'this early we would be getting runway 9R' I pointed out that the arrival we were assigned specifically says runway 10. He insisted that we would get 9R this early. Because I had already had to ask him to please wait for me to call for checklists; insist that it was my decision whether we would taxi single engine or not; etc; etc; I decided I would pick my battles; so to say; and believe her since I am relatively new to being based in atl. Later as I contacted atl approach they assigned us runway 10 as I expected. Within a second before anything could be said the first officer; as the flying pilot; reached over and changed the navigation one to the ILS for 10. I was sort of taken aback; but didn't really say anything; once again just thinking this was our last leg together and it would be over soon enough. So the first officer gives an extremely short brief of runway 10 before I had a chance to pull up the 11-9. I confirmed the ILS was correct for 10. We were giving a heading; but not to intercept. The first officer said to 'clean up the box' and I said 'let's wait until we are told it is vectors in case we get direct to a fix'. We get cleared for the ILS 10 and it quickly becomes clear the localizer isn't matched to what we were seeing on the pfd. I cycled my nav source back to white and then back to green needles which doesn't fix the problem. We both realize what is happening; that we didn't change the runway in the FMS; at about the same time. I attempt to fix it in the FMS and almost simultaneously ATC gives a heading to turn off the approach to get re-sequenced. This happened simultaneously while the first officer turned the autopilot off without canceling the cavalry charge; which caused further distraction while trying to reply to ATC. The first officer hand flew the turn to the new heading while I set up the FMS for the ILS to 10. We were re-sequenced and landed after seeing the runway and continuing to land around 350' above the field.several main factors; I initially allowed the first officer to plan and brief runway 9R instead of 10 because of the perception she had been in atl longer than I and knows what to expect; combined with her insistence that it's what we will be assigned combined with my lack of desire to have defend another decision to the first officer. Basically I was very tired [when we departed] and didn't think it was worth it to disagree with this first officer over something I wasn't 100% sure on. Secondly; I allowed the first officer to give an unnecessarily rushed brief and respond in a manner that didn't adhere to the SOP when we were given the non-briefed runway.thirdly; I think if it hadn't been so early or the weather so bad I would have caught that the FMS was never changed; but these factors along with the narrative provided above combined to miss this step. I will definitely be adding it into my personal scan and final checks once we are cleared for the approach.I feel I need to stand more firm even if it makes the first officer uncomfortable when I am seeing rushing; complacency or non-conformity to the sops. I debriefed the first officer on the risks of rushing; and that their actions; while I suspect were meant to be helpful; were in fact not helpful. I always brief that we are not in a hurry and will always take our time and do things the right way; now I just need to not get steamrolled into going faster than I feel comfortable with.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ-200 flight crew reported communication breakdown between flight crew resulted in procedural errors on final approach.
Narrative: We briefed the entire flight on the ground prior to departure due to the length of the flight and the inclement weather in ATL. The FO (First Officer) was the PF (Pilot Flying.) He briefed that 'this early we would be getting runway 9R' I pointed out that the arrival we were assigned specifically says runway 10. He insisted that we would get 9R this early. Because I had already had to ask him to please wait for me to call for checklists; insist that it was my decision whether we would taxi single engine or not; etc; etc; I decided I would pick my battles; so to say; and believe her since I am relatively new to being based in ATL. Later as I contacted ATL approach they assigned us runway 10 as I expected. Within a second before anything could be said the FO; as the flying pilot; reached over and changed the NAV one to the ILS for 10. I was sort of taken aback; but didn't really say anything; once again just thinking this was our last leg together and it would be over soon enough. So the FO gives an extremely short brief of runway 10 before I had a chance to pull up the 11-9. I confirmed the ILS was correct for 10. We were giving a heading; but not to intercept. The FO said to 'clean up the box' and I said 'let's wait until we are told it is vectors in case we get direct to a fix'. We get cleared for the ILS 10 and it quickly becomes clear the localizer isn't matched to what we were seeing on the PFD. I cycled my nav source back to white and then back to green needles which doesn't fix the problem. We both realize what is happening; that we didn't change the runway in the FMS; at about the same time. I attempt to fix it in the FMS and almost simultaneously ATC gives a heading to turn off the approach to get re-sequenced. This happened simultaneously while the FO turned the Autopilot off without canceling the cavalry charge; which caused further distraction while trying to reply to ATC. The FO hand flew the turn to the new heading while I set up the FMS for the ILS to 10. We were re-sequenced and landed after seeing the runway and continuing to land around 350' above the field.Several main factors; I initially allowed the FO to plan and brief runway 9R instead of 10 because of the perception she had been in ATL longer than I and knows what to expect; combined with her insistence that it's what we will be assigned combined with my lack of desire to have defend another decision to the FO. Basically I was very tired [when we departed] and didn't think it was worth it to disagree with this FO over something I wasn't 100% sure on. Secondly; I allowed the FO to give an unnecessarily rushed brief and respond in a manner that didn't adhere to the SOP when we were given the non-briefed runway.Thirdly; I think if it hadn't been so early or the weather so bad I would have caught that the FMS was never changed; but these factors along with the narrative provided above combined to miss this step. I will definitely be adding it into my personal scan and final checks once we are cleared for the approach.I feel I need to stand more firm even if it makes the FO uncomfortable when I am seeing rushing; complacency or non-conformity to the SOPs. I debriefed the FO on the risks of rushing; and that their actions; while I suspect were meant to be helpful; were in fact not helpful. I always brief that we are not in a hurry and will always take our time and do things the right way; now I just need to not get steamrolled into going faster than I feel comfortable with.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.