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Attributes | |
ACN | 161357 |
Time | |
Date | 199010 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : san |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 161357 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Taking off below RVR, #1 for takeoff at san, I was so involved in the operational specifications and being asked numerous times by the tower what was needed for takeoff that I overlooked the commercial approach plate for minimum RVR (on runway 27). After leveling off at cruising altitude, I went back to the operational specifications (for what I considered questionable areas) and to the commercial approach plate, I discovered my error. I think we should utilize as much training time on takeoff RVR's as we spend on landing RVR's before it is required.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG TKOF IN WX REPORTED BELOW ARPT MINIMUMS FOR TKOF.
Narrative: TAKING OFF BELOW RVR, #1 FOR TKOF AT SAN, I WAS SO INVOLVED IN THE OPERATIONAL SPECS AND BEING ASKED NUMEROUS TIMES BY THE TWR WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR TKOF THAT I OVERLOOKED THE COMMERCIAL APCH PLATE FOR MINIMUM RVR (ON RWY 27). AFTER LEVELING OFF AT CRUISING ALT, I WENT BACK TO THE OPERATIONAL SPECS (FOR WHAT I CONSIDERED QUESTIONABLE AREAS) AND TO THE COMMERCIAL APCH PLATE, I DISCOVERED MY ERROR. I THINK WE SHOULD UTILIZE AS MUCH TRNING TIME ON TKOF RVR'S AS WE SPEND ON LNDG RVR'S BEFORE IT IS REQUIRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.