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Attributes | |
ACN | 161678 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3200 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msp artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 161678 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During ILS approach into msp, we were told (#) to maintain 4000' until established, cleared for the ILS. During base leg on approach captain (PF) allowed aircraft to descend about 800' below the G/south. I called 10W on the approach, but was not forceful enough on my callout. This was partly due to my being new on the aircraft and not wanting to offend the captain who was experienced. We both became so engrossed with returning the aircraft to its proper flight path that we did not complete the final descent checklist. The flight landed west/O incident but clearly was a deviation from standard SOP operation. To prevent this is the future I'll yell a lot louder if the aircraft goes below G/south significantly, and I'll put the checklist in my hand as soon as the gear comes down.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW BECAME SO DISTRACTED BY AN ALT DEVIATION THAT THEY FORGOT TO PERFORM THE BEFORE LNDG CHECKLIST.
Narrative: DURING ILS APCH INTO MSP, WE WERE TOLD (#) TO MAINTAIN 4000' UNTIL ESTABLISHED, CLRED FOR THE ILS. DURING BASE LEG ON APCH CAPT (PF) ALLOWED ACFT TO DSND ABOUT 800' BELOW THE G/S. I CALLED 10W ON THE APCH, BUT WAS NOT FORCEFUL ENOUGH ON MY CALLOUT. THIS WAS PARTLY DUE TO MY BEING NEW ON THE ACFT AND NOT WANTING TO OFFEND THE CAPT WHO WAS EXPERIENCED. WE BOTH BECAME SO ENGROSSED WITH RETURNING THE ACFT TO ITS PROPER FLT PATH THAT WE DID NOT COMPLETE THE FINAL DSNT CHKLIST. THE FLT LANDED W/O INCIDENT BUT CLEARLY WAS A DEVIATION FROM STANDARD SOP OPERATION. TO PREVENT THIS IS THE FUTURE I'LL YELL A LOT LOUDER IF THE ACFT GOES BELOW G/S SIGNIFICANTLY, AND I'LL PUT THE CHKLIST IN MY HAND AS SOON AS THE GEAR COMES DOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.