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Attributes | |
ACN | 163757 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mia |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 15300 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 163757 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
While landing on runway 13R at dfw we were following a light transport who landed short and taxied all the way to the end of runway. We were cleared to land, saw that the light transport had skipped the high speed turnoff and asked the tower a second time if we were still cleared to land. Tower said yes, go ahead and land, light transport will clear. As we touched down light transport was just starting to clear. We had plenty of room to clear at the high speed so there was never a problem, however, the tower asked us to call when we did they apologized and said it was their fault and just need some information on the aircraft for their paperwork. We asked what they would prefer us to do in that situation and they could not give us an answer. We have had aircraft 'go around' in that situation and the tower get upset saying there was enough clearance between the aircraft still on the runway. We need a clarification on this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT LANDED ON OCCUPIED RWY.
Narrative: WHILE LNDG ON RWY 13R AT DFW WE WERE FOLLOWING A LTT WHO LANDED SHORT AND TAXIED ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF RWY. WE WERE CLRED TO LAND, SAW THAT THE LTT HAD SKIPPED THE HIGH SPD TURNOFF AND ASKED THE TWR A SEC TIME IF WE WERE STILL CLRED TO LAND. TWR SAID YES, GO AHEAD AND LAND, LTT WILL CLR. AS WE TOUCHED DOWN LTT WAS JUST STARTING TO CLR. WE HAD PLENTY OF ROOM TO CLR AT THE HIGH SPD SO THERE WAS NEVER A PROB, HOWEVER, THE TWR ASKED US TO CALL WHEN WE DID THEY APOLOGIZED AND SAID IT WAS THEIR FAULT AND JUST NEED SOME INFO ON THE ACFT FOR THEIR PAPERWORK. WE ASKED WHAT THEY WOULD PREFER US TO DO IN THAT SITUATION AND THEY COULD NOT GIVE US AN ANSWER. WE HAVE HAD ACFT 'GO AROUND' IN THAT SITUATION AND THE TWR GET UPSET SAYING THERE WAS ENOUGH CLRNC BTWN THE ACFT STILL ON THE RWY. WE NEED A CLARIFICATION ON THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.