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Attributes | |
ACN | 1645367 |
Time | |
Date | 201905 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Private |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 30 Flight Crew Total 1300 Flight Crew Type 800 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 200 Vertical 100 |
Narrative:
I was cleared for departure on runway xx from ZZZ; on an IFR flight plan. I was given instructions for runway heading climbing up to 1600 feet; bases were being reported at 1000-1600 feet at the time by arriving and departing traffic; scattered layers; just after rain had passed through.upon departure; a [helicopter] was right on my departure path; directly over the sand of the beach; and did not react or maneuver away from me. My assumption is that he did not see me. I had previously heard no calls from the traffic and tower gave me no warning of traffic crossing my departure path. The tower did tell me there was traffic on a 3.5 mile final to land on runway xx; and they wanted me to have a no delay departure; they told that traffic to slow up as they had a aircraft X departing runway xx.on climb out; I was fighting down-drafts and working to gain altitude; I started receiving traffic alerts from my ads-B and I quickly acquired the helicopter in my visual scan; I could see the color of the pilots shirt we were that close.my understanding (after reading their LOA) is that ATC has a LOA with this helicopter operator; and they should make required calls when crossing the departure/arrival path of runway xx or runway xy; they should also be 300-500 feet laterally from the coastline and 300 AGL in altitude. I notified the tower immediately of the conflict and told them that was too close. After some pause; the tower contacted the helo pilot and asked what his altitude was; he said 300 feet; the tower said 'that's what I thought' after that; I continued to monitor the tower frequency as I departed and continued with approach; the tower gave the helicopter much more specific instructions as he continued his sightseeing flight with passengers.this was a close call; this area needs to be reexamined and the sightseeing operations need to be suspended or redirected around the approach/departure path of the ZZZ runway. Someone is going to get hurt if this does not change.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA pilot reported an NMAC with a helicopter and the lack of information from ATC.
Narrative: I was cleared for departure on Runway XX from ZZZ; on an IFR flight plan. I was given instructions for runway heading climbing up to 1600 feet; bases were being reported at 1000-1600 feet at the time by arriving and departing traffic; scattered layers; just after rain had passed through.Upon departure; a [helicopter] was right on my departure path; directly over the sand of the beach; and did not react or maneuver away from me. My assumption is that he did not see me. I had previously heard no calls from the traffic and Tower gave me no warning of traffic crossing my departure path. The Tower did tell me there was traffic on a 3.5 mile final to land on Runway XX; and they wanted me to have a no delay departure; they told that traffic to slow up as they had a Aircraft X departing Runway XX.On climb out; I was fighting down-drafts and working to gain altitude; I started receiving traffic alerts from my ADS-B and I quickly acquired the helicopter in my visual scan; I could see the color of the pilots shirt we were that close.My understanding (after reading their LOA) is that ATC has a LOA with this helicopter operator; and they should make required calls when crossing the departure/arrival path of Runway XX or Runway XY; they should also be 300-500 feet laterally from the coastline and 300 AGL in altitude. I notified the tower immediately of the conflict and told them that was too close. After some pause; the Tower contacted the helo pilot and asked what his altitude was; he said 300 feet; the Tower said 'that's what I thought' After that; I continued to monitor the Tower frequency as I departed and continued with Approach; the Tower gave the helicopter much more specific instructions as he continued his sightseeing flight with passengers.This was a close call; this area needs to be reexamined and the sightseeing operations need to be suspended or redirected around the approach/departure path of the ZZZ runway. Someone is going to get hurt if this does not change.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.