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Attributes | |
ACN | 164569 |
Time | |
Date | 199012 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hnl |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : owd |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 164569 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
As first officer I forgot to obtain pushback clearance from gate at hnl although the captain never asked me to, or asked if I had the clearance. I think we blocked another aircraft who pushed just a minute before we did, but ground control never said a word, but lightly hinted at it. I may have just forgot to get the clearance or was distracted by a question from the captain just as I was to do it. Plus, I had just received clearance from ground and state ramp control to start an engine at the gate a few mins earlier for a maintenance check. Maybe subconsciously I've gotten too relaxed with the captain and F/east who have been flying the aircraft more than 10 yrs each, because they do more than half my duties for me and that really distracts my train of thought, to continually reach for a switch that's my job and find it already on (or off). I'm not slow or behind, it's that they are so fast, and they've made radio calls for me before.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB PUSHES BACK WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: AS F/O I FORGOT TO OBTAIN PUSHBACK CLRNC FROM GATE AT HNL ALTHOUGH THE CAPT NEVER ASKED ME TO, OR ASKED IF I HAD THE CLRNC. I THINK WE BLOCKED ANOTHER ACFT WHO PUSHED JUST A MINUTE BEFORE WE DID, BUT GND CTL NEVER SAID A WORD, BUT LIGHTLY HINTED AT IT. I MAY HAVE JUST FORGOT TO GET THE CLRNC OR WAS DISTRACTED BY A QUESTION FROM THE CAPT JUST AS I WAS TO DO IT. PLUS, I HAD JUST RECEIVED CLRNC FROM GND AND STATE RAMP CTL TO START AN ENG AT THE GATE A FEW MINS EARLIER FOR A MAINT CHK. MAYBE SUBCONSCIOUSLY I'VE GOTTEN TOO RELAXED WITH THE CAPT AND F/E WHO HAVE BEEN FLYING THE ACFT MORE THAN 10 YRS EACH, BECAUSE THEY DO MORE THAN HALF MY DUTIES FOR ME AND THAT REALLY DISTRACTS MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, TO CONTINUALLY REACH FOR A SWITCH THAT'S MY JOB AND FIND IT ALREADY ON (OR OFF). I'M NOT SLOW OR BEHIND, IT'S THAT THEY ARE SO FAST, AND THEY'VE MADE RADIO CALLS FOR ME BEFORE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.