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Citation first officer reported conflicting holding clearance interpretations during descent to mdw airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1666580 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201907 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZAU.ARTCC |
| State Reference | IL |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
We were on a flight to mdw. Due to delays; we were asked to hold on southwest of the peoria VOR on the 200 degree radial with 10 NM legs. Initially; I had set right turns in the FMS; because the controller did not specify they wanted us to make non-standard turns. The captain then instructed me to change it to left turns; because we were instructed to hold 'southwest' of the VOR. To avoid an argument; I asked the controller to verify they wanted us to hold southwest of the VOR. Controller confirmed that fact. So; there we were in a hold over the peoria VOR making non-standard turns without the controller asking us to do it. We held for 45 minutes; and controller did not say anything to us about it; so I'm guessing we were not creating a conflict. In the future; I will ask specifically if left or right turns are wanted; if there is any doubt by a fellow crew member.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Citation First Officer reported conflicting holding clearance interpretations during descent to MDW airport.
Narrative: We were on a flight to MDW. Due to delays; we were asked to hold on southwest of the Peoria VOR on the 200 degree radial with 10 NM legs. Initially; I had set right turns in the FMS; because the Controller did not specify they wanted us to make non-standard turns. The Captain then instructed me to change it to left turns; because we were instructed to hold 'southwest' of the VOR. To avoid an argument; I asked the Controller to verify they wanted us to hold southwest of the VOR. Controller confirmed that fact. So; there we were in a hold over the Peoria VOR making non-standard turns without the Controller asking us to do it. We held for 45 minutes; and Controller did not say anything to us about it; so I'm guessing we were not creating a conflict. In the future; I will ask specifically if left or right turns are wanted; if there is any doubt by a fellow crew member.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.