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Attributes | |
ACN | 1669620 |
Time | |
Date | 201907 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DEN.Airport |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Next Generation Undifferentiated |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were once again taken off of the arrival and given vectors and altitudes for a visual approach to runway 16 left. A few weeks ago I had to submit a different report because approach control forgot about us and we went right through final. That was a seriously dangerous position to be in. Our company airport pages tell us to be cognizant of the fact that many RA's occur in and around the denver area. Every time I come into denver I brief my first officer how we should be aware of how approach control forgets about us. Or approach brings in aircraft so close to us that conflicts occur. So on today's flight we intercept final 20 or 25 miles out for a straight in to runway 16L. However I'm watching the TCAS and see an aircraft coming from behind us high and fast. Watching; watching the aircraft high to our right. It was descending rapidly. Much faster than us with a huge closure rate. He was; I guess cleared to 10;000 feet going well above 250 knots for the parallel runway 16 right. We were at 210 knots level 9;000 feet as assigned. Straight in final; stable. The target went from white to amber to red so fast that we barely had time to disconnect the auto pilot and follow the instructions of TCAS. As fast as the warning came it went away just as fast. Still scary. I informed approach control of receiving the warning. A go-around was not necessary in this instance however the aircraft to our right certainly got our attention. It rapidly sped by us and landed well ahead of us. I have been going into denver rather regularly for the last month or two and I would say they can do better. The aircraft next to us was in a massive hurry. To the best of my knowledge it was a [another carrier name]. Don't allow aircraft to get so close to each other. Instead; stagger them. Also; allowing aircraft to scream onto final puts others at risk. High altitude; high true airspeed; bigger turn radius makes overshoots common. That's what happened here. Once we get an RA; its game over. The autopilot gotta go off and we follow the commands; period.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A pilot reported receiving and reacting to a TCAS/RA for an aircraft that overtook them being sequenced to the parallel runway.
Narrative: We were once again taken off of the arrival and given vectors and altitudes for a Visual Approach to Runway 16 Left. A few weeks ago I had to submit a different report because Approach Control forgot about us and we went right through final. That was a seriously dangerous position to be in. Our company airport pages tell us to be cognizant of the fact that many RA's occur in and around the Denver area. Every time I come into Denver I brief my First Officer how we should be aware of how Approach Control forgets about us. Or approach brings in aircraft so close to us that conflicts occur. So on today's flight we intercept final 20 or 25 miles out for a straight in to Runway 16L. However I'm watching the TCAS and see an aircraft coming from behind us high and fast. Watching; Watching the aircraft high to our right. It was descending rapidly. Much faster than us with a huge closure rate. He was; I guess cleared to 10;000 feet GOING WELL ABOVE 250 knots for the parallel Runway 16 Right. We were at 210 knots level 9;000 feet as assigned. Straight in final; stable. The target went from White to Amber to RED so fast that we barely had time to disconnect the auto pilot and follow the instructions Of TCAS. As fast as the warning came it went away just as fast. STILL SCARY. I informed Approach Control of receiving the warning. A go-around was not necessary in this instance however the aircraft to our right certainly got our attention. It rapidly sped by us and landed well ahead of us. I have been going into Denver rather regularly for the last month or two and I would say they can do better. The aircraft next to us was in a massive hurry. To the best of my knowledge it was a [another carrier name]. Don't allow aircraft to get so close to each other. Instead; stagger them. Also; allowing aircraft to scream onto final puts others at risk. High altitude; high true airspeed; bigger turn radius makes overshoots common. That's what happened here. Once we get an RA; its game over. The autopilot gotta go off and we follow the commands; period.
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