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Attributes | |
ACN | 1687550 |
Time | |
Date | 201909 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | HCF.TRACON |
State Reference | HI |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport High Wing 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
There is an hcf ATC controller whose judgment; situational awareness; traffic separation; radio communication; and performance as a controller is going to get the flying public killed. Every time the flight crew hears [controller] voice on the radio; we know we are about to receive weird; nonsensical; convoluted; exhaustingly inefficient; and down-right absurd instructions; comments; and radio calls. On this flight; we had just overtaken one of the [aircraft] headed to ZZZ and were instructed to switch over to 124.1. The check-in was received and [controller] started talking. [Controller] immediately said to get ready to copy holding instructions. We requested a visual approach. [Controller] instructed us to hold at 4;000 feet; southwest on mkk 236 radial; right hand turns; efc xa+30. We started slowing; planned a direct entry; turned outbound; only to hear [controller] say; 'traffic alert!' (what the [expletive deleted]; [controller]?!!! It's your [expletive deleted]; airspace!!! (I thought) aircraft Y headed to ZZZ coming straight at us. Another 'traffic alert! Instruction to aircraft Y as well. Traffic alert [controller]. Both aircraft doing what [controller] instructed them to do; talking to [controller]; [controller] steered us right into each other. We lived through it; this time. Somebody needs to pull the tapes. We requested the visual again; and [controller] dumped us off to ZZZ tower; who had to send us north of the island to orbit while three [aircraft] arrived from the south. [Controller's] [aircraft]? I think the [aircraft] we overtook from ZZZ1 was the [aircraft] that [controller] vectored us into; who then landed ahead of us in ZZZ; even though we got to ZZZ first.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Medium Transport pilot reported issues relating to one Controller at HCF that resulted in an airborne conflict.
Narrative: There is an HCF ATC Controller whose judgment; situational awareness; traffic separation; radio communication; and performance as a Controller is going to get the flying public killed. Every time the flight crew hears [Controller] voice on the radio; we know we are about to receive weird; nonsensical; convoluted; exhaustingly inefficient; and down-right absurd instructions; comments; and radio calls. On this flight; we had just overtaken one of the [aircraft] headed to ZZZ and were instructed to switch over to 124.1. The check-in was received and [Controller] started talking. [Controller] immediately said to get ready to copy holding instructions. We requested a visual approach. [Controller] instructed us to hold at 4;000 feet; southwest on MKK 236 radial; right hand turns; EFC XA+30. We started slowing; planned a direct entry; turned outbound; only to hear [Controller] say; 'Traffic Alert!' (what the [expletive deleted]; [Controller]?!!! It's your [expletive deleted]; airspace!!! (I thought) Aircraft Y headed to ZZZ coming straight at us. Another 'Traffic Alert! instruction to Aircraft Y as well. Traffic Alert [Controller]. Both aircraft doing what [Controller] instructed them to do; talking to [Controller]; [Controller] steered us right into each other. We lived through it; this time. Somebody needs to pull the tapes. We requested the visual again; and [Controller] dumped us off to ZZZ Tower; who had to send us north of the island to orbit while three [Aircraft] arrived from the south. [Controller's] [Aircraft]? I think the [Aircraft] we overtook from ZZZ1 was the [Aircraft] that [Controller] vectored us into; who then landed ahead of us in ZZZ; even though we got to ZZZ first.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.