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Attributes | |
ACN | 168773 |
Time | |
Date | 199101 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 168773 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Had disabled flight guidance system, in accordance with company policy, to perform special sna noise abatement takeoff. The procedure requires a pitch attitude greater than F/D is capable of providing properly. Departure cleared us to 6000' soon after takeoff and changed the published route to a different heading and right intercept. In the scramble to change altitude and routing, and with flight guidance system still off, we climbed through 6000' to 6600' before correcting. In my opinion the special sna noise abatement takeoff procedure, especially when combined with reroutings soon after takeoff, lead to too many distrs and potential for error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT FLYING BY HAND OVERSHOT ALT ASSIGNMENT DEPARTING SNA.
Narrative: HAD DISABLED FLT GUIDANCE SYS, IN ACCORDANCE WITH COMPANY POLICY, TO PERFORM SPECIAL SNA NOISE ABATEMENT TKOF. THE PROC REQUIRES A PITCH ATTITUDE GREATER THAN F/D IS CAPABLE OF PROVIDING PROPERLY. DEP CLRED US TO 6000' SOON AFTER TKOF AND CHANGED THE PUBLISHED RTE TO A DIFFERENT HDG AND R INTERCEPT. IN THE SCRAMBLE TO CHANGE ALT AND RTING, AND WITH FLT GUIDANCE SYS STILL OFF, WE CLBED THROUGH 6000' TO 6600' BEFORE CORRECTING. IN MY OPINION THE SPECIAL SNA NOISE ABATEMENT TKOF PROC, ESPECIALLY WHEN COMBINED WITH REROUTINGS SOON AFTER TKOF, LEAD TO TOO MANY DISTRS AND POTENTIAL FOR ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.