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Attributes | |
ACN | 1692308 |
Time | |
Date | 201910 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | RBV.VOR |
State Reference | NJ |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Embraer Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR KORRY FOUR |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Doing a ferry flight to lga. Captain is flying and I am monitoring. Descending into lga on the KORRY4 arrival; approach gives us holding instructions. 'Hold southwest of the rbv VOR as published. That VOR was pretty close (like 3 minutes away). Captain looks up the hold and programs it into the FMS. I'm still busy on the radio. I see the hold he programmed is southwest of the rbv VOR so I agree with it. We cross over the VOR and enter a left turn for the holding pattern. ATC advises us that the published hold is right turns. I look up the published hold on my jeppesen app and sure enough its right turns with a slightly different inbound course. We manually fly a couple laps around the hold with right turns and the correct inbound course before we continued to lga. Once we are on the ground I discuss what happened with the captain. He tells me that he was using charts + by navblue and could not locate the published hold on the chart. He showed me the chart and I could not immediately identify the published hold there either. He chose the first listed/default hold in the FMS for rbv. It was southwest of the VOR; and usually that first one is the published one. Once we examined the charts for a few more minutes we finally located the published hold. It's on the left side of the chart with a giant block of text whereas the rest of the holds are boxed on the right hand side of the chart. So the violation was flying the incorrect hold instead of the published hold.what caused this? I would say the confusing layout of charts + KORRY4 arrival plate. The hold can be identified easily on the jeppesen plates. Also being rushed (close to rbv when given the clearance) and busy on the radio; we didn't have time to figure it out before we were in the hold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: First Officer reported entering a published holding pattern in the wrong direction due to confusing chart layout.
Narrative: Doing a ferry flight to LGA. Captain is flying and I am monitoring. Descending into LGA on the KORRY4 arrival; Approach gives us holding instructions. 'Hold southwest of the RBV VOR as published. That VOR was pretty close (like 3 minutes away). Captain looks up the hold and programs it into the FMS. I'm still busy on the radio. I see the hold he programmed is southwest of the RBV VOR so I agree with it. We cross over the VOR and enter a left turn for the holding pattern. ATC advises us that the published hold is right turns. I look up the published hold on my Jeppesen app and sure enough its right turns with a slightly different inbound course. We manually fly a couple laps around the hold with right turns and the correct inbound course before we continued to LGA. Once we are on the ground I discuss what happened with the captain. He tells me that he was using CHARTS + by NavBlue and could not locate the published hold on the chart. He showed me the chart and I could not immediately identify the published hold there either. He chose the first listed/default hold in the FMS for RBV. It was southwest of the VOR; and usually that first one is the published one. Once we examined the charts for a few more minutes we finally located the published hold. It's on the left side of the chart with a giant block of text whereas the rest of the holds are boxed on the right hand side of the chart. So the violation was flying the incorrect hold instead of the published hold.What caused this? I would say the confusing layout of charts + KORRY4 arrival plate. The hold can be identified easily on the jeppesen plates. Also being rushed (close to RBV when given the clearance) and busy on the radio; we didn't have time to figure it out before we were in the hold.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.