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Attributes | |
ACN | 169479 |
Time | |
Date | 199101 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : byi |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 169479 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X 48 mi west of byi VOR ATC (slc center) told me that I was northwest of boi and heading northwest. I told him that my position was no where near where he was painting me. After I did an 'identify' he still insisted I was northwest of boi. I again verified my position with two VOR's three INS, one magnetic compass and one sunrise I was looking at. Shortly after crossing byi, I was correctly idented. You can well image what a dangerous situation this could develop into.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RADAR CTLR INSISTED ACR X WAS NAV ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X 48 MI W OF BYI VOR ATC (SLC CTR) TOLD ME THAT I WAS NW OF BOI AND HDG NW. I TOLD HIM THAT MY POS WAS NO WHERE NEAR WHERE HE WAS PAINTING ME. AFTER I DID AN 'IDENT' HE STILL INSISTED I WAS NW OF BOI. I AGAIN VERIFIED MY POS WITH TWO VOR'S THREE INS, ONE MAG COMPASS AND ONE SUNRISE I WAS LOOKING AT. SHORTLY AFTER XING BYI, I WAS CORRECTLY IDENTED. YOU CAN WELL IMAGE WHAT A DANGEROUS SITUATION THIS COULD DEVELOP INTO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.