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Attributes | |
ACN | 169794 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bna |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bna |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 169794 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2700 flight time type : 430 |
ASRS Report | 169633 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At approximately 4500' MSL in a normal rate descent I saw a high wing small aircraft at our 10 O'clock, same altitude. Judging by the closure rate, I kept descending normally while watching the other aircraft. The small aircraft closed to approximately 200' horizontal and moved from our 10 O'clock to 7 O'clock position, at which time it appeared to pull up to avoid us. ATC was notified immediately at my first sighting of the small aircraft, when I saw it at 10 O'clock position. We were informed that 'it just popped up,' after which we were given vectors for bna. We were on an IFR flight plan which requires horizontal and vertical sep from all traffic, regardless of WX conditions. I personally find it hard to believe that the small aircraft 'just popped up,' considering it's altitude of 4500' MSL. In my view, there must have been a primary target on ATC radar, even if the small aircraft did not use a transponder--especially when both aircraft were so near a terminal airport area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-SMT GA-SMA 20 NM SOUTH OF BNA.
Narrative: AT APPROX 4500' MSL IN A NORMAL RATE DSNT I SAW A HIGH WING SMA AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK, SAME ALT. JUDGING BY THE CLOSURE RATE, I KEPT DSNDING NORMALLY WHILE WATCHING THE OTHER ACFT. THE SMA CLOSED TO APPROX 200' HORIZ AND MOVED FROM OUR 10 O'CLOCK TO 7 O'CLOCK POS, AT WHICH TIME IT APPEARED TO PULL UP TO AVOID US. ATC WAS NOTIFIED IMMEDIATELY AT MY FIRST SIGHTING OF THE SMA, WHEN I SAW IT AT 10 O'CLOCK POS. WE WERE INFORMED THAT 'IT JUST POPPED UP,' AFTER WHICH WE WERE GIVEN VECTORS FOR BNA. WE WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN WHICH REQUIRES HORIZ AND VERT SEP FROM ALL TFC, REGARDLESS OF WX CONDITIONS. I PERSONALLY FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE SMA 'JUST POPPED UP,' CONSIDERING IT'S ALT OF 4500' MSL. IN MY VIEW, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A PRIMARY TARGET ON ATC RADAR, EVEN IF THE SMA DID NOT USE A XPONDER--ESPECIALLY WHEN BOTH ACFT WERE SO NEAR A TERMINAL ARPT AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.