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Attributes | |
ACN | 169939 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tup |
State Reference | MS |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10800 |
ASRS Report | 169939 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the captain on a scheduled carrier flight from ban to tup. Tup is an uncontrolled field, with no tower or FSS, just traffic advisory on unicom CTAF. Center reported no known traffic and cleared us for a visibility approach. Because we knew tub is uncontrolled, we started calling from 25 mi out for traffic advisories. We were told there was 'no known traffic.' we continued to call our position at 10 mi, 5 mi out, at downwind for runway 36, base, final, 1 mi final and short final. When we called on short final, an small aircraft reported to be 'short final to 18, tup.' we could not see him due to the haze and the sun going down, and by this time we were flaring for landing. We asked him if he had seen or heard us, and he stated, 'oh, yes, I heard you all those times but didn't think you were landing on 36.' he also stated he was executing a go around. During his go around, he flew very close to our aircraft, which was on the runway by then. This near incident was caused by this pilot not using proper CTAF procedures. If people don't call their position. They stand a good chance of having a midair!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX FLT CREW EXTRA CAREFUL TO REPORT ON UNICOM THEIR POSITION ON APCH AND LNDG AND THEN RECEIVED LATE CALL FROM SMA LNDG SAME RWY OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
Narrative: I WAS THE CAPT ON A SCHEDULED CARRIER FLT FROM BAN TO TUP. TUP IS AN UNCONTROLLED FIELD, WITH NO TWR OR FSS, JUST TFC ADVISORY ON UNICOM CTAF. CENTER RPTED NO KNOWN TFC AND CLRED US FOR A VIS APCH. BECAUSE WE KNEW TUB IS UNCONTROLLED, WE STARTED CALLING FROM 25 MI OUT FOR TFC ADVISORIES. WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS 'NO KNOWN TFC.' WE CONTINUED TO CALL OUR POS AT 10 MI, 5 MI OUT, AT DOWNWIND FOR RWY 36, BASE, FINAL, 1 MI FINAL AND SHORT FINAL. WHEN WE CALLED ON SHORT FINAL, AN SMA RPTED TO BE 'SHORT FINAL TO 18, TUP.' WE COULD NOT SEE HIM DUE TO THE HAZE AND THE SUN GOING DOWN, AND BY THIS TIME WE WERE FLARING FOR LNDG. WE ASKED HIM IF HE HAD SEEN OR HEARD US, AND HE STATED, 'OH, YES, I HEARD YOU ALL THOSE TIMES BUT DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE LNDG ON 36.' HE ALSO STATED HE WAS EXECUTING A GAR. DURING HIS GAR, HE FLEW VERY CLOSE TO OUR ACFT, WHICH WAS ON THE RWY BY THEN. THIS NEAR INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY THIS PLT NOT USING PROPER CTAF PROCS. IF PEOPLE DON'T CALL THEIR POS. THEY STAND A GOOD CHANCE OF HAVING A MIDAIR!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.