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Attributes | |
ACN | 531797 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vis.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 36 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 4750 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 531797 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 532211 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 1200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After engine start, we announced on CTAF frequency 'taxiing to runway 12' and then proceeded to taxi, monitoring CTAF. We heard an aircraft announce base and final for runway 30. At the hold short bars we announced holding short runway 12. We observed the aircraft land, clear the runway and announce clear. We then announced taking runway 12 for departure. We did the normal short back taxi with a 180 degree turn to position on runway 12. As we completed the 180 degree turn, we saw the landing light of an aircraft on about a 1 mi final for runway 30. At the same time, it was announced on CTAF 'there is another aircraft on final' and right after that the aircraft on final announced that he was going around. I questioned the first officer as to why to go around aircraft had not said anything on CTAF when we announced that we were taking runway 12 for departure. I instructed the first officer to maintain visual with the go around aircraft and when the aircraft had passed overhead and was behind us, we announced our takeoff roll and departed runway 12. As we departed the airport area on the instrument departure procedure, the go around aircraft was well behind us in his crosswind leg. No further communication was heard from the go around aircraft and we announced clear of the area and continued towards lax. I again communicated to the first officer regarding the go around aircraft not announcing anything after we announced taking runway 12 for departure. Performance allowed for departure from runway 12 favoring our direction of flight with the AWOS reporting winds at 4 KTS. We had the go around aircraft in sight from the time we completed our 180 degree turn until we departed the area. No near miss occurred. The aircraft flew over us on his go around upwind leg at about 1000 ft AGL as we were still holding position for departure on runway 12. Supplemental information from acn 532211: 1 aircraft at the end of runway 30 stated he was taxiing to the runup area there. He heard no one else over the CTAF. After taxiing to the runup area of runway 12, we finished all taxi checks before takeoff and received our clearance from fat approach. We both looked left and right. No one was ever in any real danger due to the aircraft far enough out on final that we could have easily gotten off the runway in time before he landed. Also if the aircraft had been on an IFR flight plan, fat approach would have known and would not have released us for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN E120 CREW TAXIED INTO POS AT VIS, ONLY TO FIND TFC ON FINAL OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THE LNDG TFC MADE A GAR AND THE E120 CREW TOOK OFF.
Narrative: AFTER ENG START, WE ANNOUNCED ON CTAF FREQ 'TAXIING TO RWY 12' AND THEN PROCEEDED TO TAXI, MONITORING CTAF. WE HEARD AN ACFT ANNOUNCE BASE AND FINAL FOR RWY 30. AT THE HOLD SHORT BARS WE ANNOUNCED HOLDING SHORT RWY 12. WE OBSERVED THE ACFT LAND, CLR THE RWY AND ANNOUNCE CLR. WE THEN ANNOUNCED TAKING RWY 12 FOR DEP. WE DID THE NORMAL SHORT BACK TAXI WITH A 180 DEG TURN TO POS ON RWY 12. AS WE COMPLETED THE 180 DEG TURN, WE SAW THE LNDG LIGHT OF AN ACFT ON ABOUT A 1 MI FINAL FOR RWY 30. AT THE SAME TIME, IT WAS ANNOUNCED ON CTAF 'THERE IS ANOTHER ACFT ON FINAL' AND RIGHT AFTER THAT THE ACFT ON FINAL ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS GOING AROUND. I QUESTIONED THE FO AS TO WHY TO GAR ACFT HAD NOT SAID ANYTHING ON CTAF WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THAT WE WERE TAKING RWY 12 FOR DEP. I INSTRUCTED THE FO TO MAINTAIN VISUAL WITH THE GAR ACFT AND WHEN THE ACFT HAD PASSED OVERHEAD AND WAS BEHIND US, WE ANNOUNCED OUR TKOF ROLL AND DEPARTED RWY 12. AS WE DEPARTED THE ARPT AREA ON THE INST DEP PROC, THE GAR ACFT WAS WELL BEHIND US IN HIS XWIND LEG. NO FURTHER COM WAS HEARD FROM THE GAR ACFT AND WE ANNOUNCED CLR OF THE AREA AND CONTINUED TOWARDS LAX. I AGAIN COMMUNICATED TO THE FO REGARDING THE GAR ACFT NOT ANNOUNCING ANYTHING AFTER WE ANNOUNCED TAKING RWY 12 FOR DEP. PERFORMANCE ALLOWED FOR DEP FROM RWY 12 FAVORING OUR DIRECTION OF FLT WITH THE AWOS RPTING WINDS AT 4 KTS. WE HAD THE GAR ACFT IN SIGHT FROM THE TIME WE COMPLETED OUR 180 DEG TURN UNTIL WE DEPARTED THE AREA. NO NEAR MISS OCCURRED. THE ACFT FLEW OVER US ON HIS GAR UPWIND LEG AT ABOUT 1000 FT AGL AS WE WERE STILL HOLDING POS FOR DEP ON RWY 12. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 532211: 1 ACFT AT THE END OF RWY 30 STATED HE WAS TAXIING TO THE RUNUP AREA THERE. HE HEARD NO ONE ELSE OVER THE CTAF. AFTER TAXIING TO THE RUNUP AREA OF RWY 12, WE FINISHED ALL TAXI CHKS BEFORE TKOF AND RECEIVED OUR CLRNC FROM FAT APCH. WE BOTH LOOKED L AND R. NO ONE WAS EVER IN ANY REAL DANGER DUE TO THE ACFT FAR ENOUGH OUT ON FINAL THAT WE COULD HAVE EASILY GOTTEN OFF THE RWY IN TIME BEFORE HE LANDED. ALSO IF THE ACFT HAD BEEN ON AN IFR FLT PLAN, FAT APCH WOULD HAVE KNOWN AND WOULD NOT HAVE RELEASED US FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.