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Attributes | |
ACN | 171992 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ape |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25500 msl bound upper : 26000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid tower : cvg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 4 controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 1 |
ASRS Report | 171992 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was working appleton high radar position. I had air carrier X just leveling from a climb off pit and air carrier Y descending into pit. I called traffic to air carrier Y at 12 O'clock and 8 mi, level at FL260, and told him to maintain FL270, that I would have lower clearing traffic. I then called traffic to air carrier X at 12 O'clock and 3 mi, leveling at FL270, and told him to maintain FL260. Air carrier X didn't acknowledge the traffic call. By the time I had issued the traffic, air carrier X was descending through FL255. I asked air carrier X his altitude. He said he was out of FL255 for FL260. When he said that, I asked if he had descended because of TCAS. He said yes. I think TCAS is a good tool. When used properly, it can save lives. The thought of an aircraft descending in the positive control area west/O a clearance is not too comforting. To save my worries, I think that pilot should have to advise ATC of his intentions prior to taking action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X UNAUTH DESCENT FROM ASSIGNED ALT. PLT DEVIATION.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING APPLETON HIGH RADAR POS. I HAD ACR X JUST LEVELING FROM A CLB OFF PIT AND ACR Y DSNDING INTO PIT. I CALLED TFC TO ACR Y AT 12 O'CLOCK AND 8 MI, LEVEL AT FL260, AND TOLD HIM TO MAINTAIN FL270, THAT I WOULD HAVE LOWER CLRING TFC. I THEN CALLED TFC TO ACR X AT 12 O'CLOCK AND 3 MI, LEVELING AT FL270, AND TOLD HIM TO MAINTAIN FL260. ACR X DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE TFC CALL. BY THE TIME I HAD ISSUED THE TFC, ACR X WAS DSNDING THROUGH FL255. I ASKED ACR X HIS ALT. HE SAID HE WAS OUT OF FL255 FOR FL260. WHEN HE SAID THAT, I ASKED IF HE HAD DSNDED BECAUSE OF TCAS. HE SAID YES. I THINK TCAS IS A GOOD TOOL. WHEN USED PROPERLY, IT CAN SAVE LIVES. THE THOUGHT OF AN ACFT DSNDING IN THE PCA W/O A CLRNC IS NOT TOO COMFORTING. TO SAVE MY WORRIES, I THINK THAT PLT SHOULD HAVE TO ADVISE ATC OF HIS INTENTIONS PRIOR TO TAKING ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.